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Title: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: LandCruisers4Life on February 05, 2008, 11:57:04 AM
Being in bear and mountain lion territory, I suggest those who have the means to go with a roof top tent for their 4wd vehicle to keep themselves off the ground. Also helps with snakes and scorpions ya know....
 :willynilly:

Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: homerboy2u on February 05, 2008, 12:20:26 PM
Being in bear and mountain lion territory, I suggest those who have the means to go with a roof top tent for their 4wd vehicle to keep themselves off the ground. Also helps with snakes and scorpions ya know....
 :willynilly:

 ABSOLUTELY...nothin g could be further from the truth land Cruiser4life.....I have been
 doing 4x4 trails around Bear and Lion country for so many years, and not even a pinch on my butt have i recieved from them. Snakes and scorpions will not enter your tent, if you leave the zipper ends on top as well.

 So let's not be paranoid about this, RESPECT your surroundings, get informed about the areas where there is wildlife presence and learn to deal with them....also a gun won't help either. REMEMBER: you are the one who is tresspassing the wildlife habitats, not the other way around.

Homero
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: oldfatman on February 05, 2008, 02:56:36 PM
I have used the tents that set up in the bed of your truck for years, because fire ants will get in if you are on the ground.  As Homero said I am the intruder.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: TheWildWestGuy on February 05, 2008, 09:01:51 PM
Some of the members don't even sleep in tents - just out on the bare ground totally exposed to whatever comes crawling, slithering, or stalking it's way up to you.   Why?  to save 5-10 lbs of tent weight, to see the stars all night, or to prove they can do it.  Me I always bring my tent, it gives me a sense of security and privacy as well as some weather protection... TWWG
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: Doc Savage on February 06, 2008, 08:38:30 AM
I've looked at lots of those over the years. Personally I like the Kimberly Kamper trailers from Austrailia best. However after looking at the Safari trailer designs from South Africia, and having a M416 trailer myself, I came up with the following:

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/DocJeep/TRday1043.jpg)

This was from my last trip to our property to Terlingua Ranch. I found a kids dome tent that just fits on top of the trailer. I have a wood top that's hinged on top of the trailer and just put the tent on top of that. The EZup was for shade (it was July). All packed well in the trailer and weathered a good rain and wind with just the stakes for the tarps pulling out.

I just like being off the ground, and the trailer top gives me a good level smooth surface to sleep on, no rocks poking thru my pad. I've gotten a little comfort oriented in my old age, would have liked to take the RV, but gas is a killer right now.

Robert
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: LandCruisers4Life on February 06, 2008, 11:51:54 AM
Homero:

Roof top tents started off in foreign parts like South Africa because people wanted to be off the ground away from wild animals. Also it gives you a great view of the surroundings.

Doc Savage:

The M416 is a popular platform for 4x4 expeditions. Some use the canadian version as well. I have thought about going with the trailer with a pintle hitch.


Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: RichardM on February 06, 2008, 01:13:38 PM
Once upon a time someone here had a cool converted M416 for sale.  The topic is gone, but the pics remain:

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20009.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20012.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20013.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20005.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20007.jpg)
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: MJ on February 06, 2008, 02:05:18 PM
Being in bear and mountain lion territory, I suggest those who have the means to go with a roof top tent for their 4wd vehicle to keep themselves off the ground. Also helps with snakes and scorpions ya know....
 :willynilly:



please tell me you are not seriously so worried about creepy crawlies and the rarely seen bigger animals that you want to camp on top of your car - what are you so scared of?

I don't even use a tent when I camp in BBNP
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: oldfatman on February 06, 2008, 02:07:41 PM
Imagine trying to sleep in that rig in a good open country windstorm.  I went through 5 yes 5 different popup campers trying to find one that would work in the strong winds of the west.  They are great in the trees, but in the wind they are like a balloon on a string.  I had trouble in winds that did not even faze my tents. Even  with that detriment I still have a fond spot for 3 of the popups I tried.  You can get them into the most unbelieveable places.  None of mine were setup for ground clearance like R2D2.  Now I use a hard side trailer designed for offroad so the wind is not as troublesome and the bathroom is ready as soon as you stop on the side of the road.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on February 06, 2008, 07:11:54 PM
please tell me you are not seriously so worried about creepy crawlies and the rarely seen bigger animals that you want to camp on top of your car - what are you so scared of?

I don't even use a tent when I camp in BBNP

Other than the wind issue noted in one post, and which plagues popup campers anywhere there is insufficient windbreaks (try using one on the east side of the Guadalupe Mountains as the wind roars full blast....about 60 mph...down the canyons and buffets you all night long, what is wrong with sleeping on top of your vehicle?

While I wouldn't have anything with fabric sides at this point, not even the 12" or so sides of a pickup slip-in camper that lets you raise the hard roof for more headroom, it clearly is an interesting design and obviously meets the needs of many. You don't have to be afraid of anything to use it.

As to fabric sides, I had a pop up for 6 years, used the heck out of it and liked it. That was me described above near the Guads and got almost no sleep with the incessant whop whop whop of the fabric billowing in the wind. I moved on to a full size travel trailer that is just spiffy, and gets me off the ground. When it is too rough to go somewhere with it, I camp in my truck or on the ground.

I remember many years ago proclaiming that I'd never camp any way other than in a truck or van. I was wrong and the travel trailer is very nice. If I had the money I'd have an EarthRoamer in a heartbeat, though I'd have to reconcile my total revulsion at having a Ford again to do it.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: homerboy2u on February 06, 2008, 07:45:11 PM
Homero:

Roof top tents started off in foreign parts like South Africa because people wanted to be off the ground away from wild animals. Also it gives you a great view of the surroundings.

 I'm not saying that it doesn't , but unfortunately for everybody...we are not in Africa buddy. No, for all practical purposes the Rooftops tents are very nice......
If I had the money I'd have an EarthRoamer in a heartbeat.
.....Oh wouldn't you want that with a cherry on top ,my friend?
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: TheWildWestGuy on February 06, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
I actually saw a European woman using a car-top tent up in The Basin Campground a couple of years ago.  It was some wierd European design that I have never seen before or since.  Later I commented to the campground host about it and he said the woman had been complaining about everyone looking at her.   It was quite a spectacle to see and attracted a lot of gawkers (myself included).  I should have taken a picture of it but the woman seemed pissed off at all the "attention" she was getting from other campers... TWWG
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on February 06, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
how the heck do you expect me to get off that ladder all dizzy and all and still pee?...he said , :eusa_think: maybe next time...Yeap. :icon_wink:

Relief tube. Problem solved.

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If I had the money I'd have an EarthRoamer in a heartbeat.
.....Oh wouldn't you want that with a cherry on top ,my friend?

Nah. Whenever I look at those rigs I just wish Toyota had something in that chassis range. That would be muy suave.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: Doc Savage on February 07, 2008, 09:00:02 AM
Richard,

I've seen some conversions like that, it isn't far from what the South Africian setups are like (there's even a place that imports them to the US). My biggest gripe with them is that I'm a cheapscape. Those modular type tent setups are typically close to or over $1K. I spent about $50 to build the wood top for the trailer and $20 for the tent. Actually saw a Bubba setup like that at a jeep event in TN before I ever saw the custom built jobs.

As to the wind issues. If you notice, I've got the awning strapped down to the trailer, it ain't going anywhere. It did get pretty gusty during a rain storm during that trip, but everything held nicely. I did have a setup kinda like R2D2 before they ever mass produced something like that. I found an old Apache tent top popup for $200. I put another $300 into it and replaced the floor, put a nylon cabin tent on top, and added bigger wheels and a lift. Hauled it down the River Road on our honeymoon. Never had an issue with that and weathered a couple of thunder storms on top of Monteagle mountain in TN with it. Graduated to a hardsided hybrid trailer after that, and now have the motorhome. Only time I've ever had a wind issue with tents was in Death Valley over Memorial Day once. We had the large dome tent (6' height) and the smaller one (4' height). It got so windy that night that the 6' tent basically laid down on my wife and son (daughter had thought she wanted to be in the small tent by herself until it got dark, then I had to go over there with her). Nothing broke and everything popped back up after the wind calmed. We never had an issue with the smaller tent.

Robert
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: LandCruisers4Life on February 07, 2008, 11:55:06 AM

please tell me you are not seriously so worried about creepy crawlies and the rarely seen bigger animals that you want to camp on top of your car - what are you so scared of?

I don't even use a tent when I camp in BBNP

How about Personal Choice? I slept on the ground for months sometimes while in the Marine Corps, I sure don't have to now.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: LandCruisers4Life on February 07, 2008, 11:59:53 AM
Here you go.... for those interested in going roof top  :icon_smile:

http://www.autohomeus.com/
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on February 07, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
I actually saw a European woman using a car-top tent up in The Basin Campground a couple of years ago.  It was some wierd European design that I have never seen before or since.  Later I commented to the campground host about it and he said the woman had been complaining about everyone looking at her.   It was quite a spectacle to see and attracted a lot of gawkers (myself included).  I should have taken a picture of it but the woman seemed pissed off at all the "attention" she was getting from other campers... TWWG

Clowns at formal events have the same problem.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on February 07, 2008, 01:32:59 PM
Here you go.... for those interested in going roof top  :icon_smile:

http://www.autohomeus.com/


Or this...
http://www.arbusa.com/arb-touring-camping.php
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: homerboy2u on February 08, 2008, 08:32:42 AM
A friend of mine has this  Roof Top Tent  (http://www.car-top-tent.com/default.asp)  he is a distributor, should anyone be interested in one. He says that this manufacturer is the one who makes the tents for ARB. I am not sure of this, but check out their webpage for more information.

 Form a first look, the prices are good...check it out, let us know.
         
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: aggiehiker on February 11, 2008, 04:17:11 PM
Put a rocker in one and Granny would be in hog heaven!
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: cartopcamper on December 26, 2008, 09:14:47 AM
Hi guys,
I have Four seasons Eminent Car roof toptent. İt has central heating system under bed. it open automatcaly when you push two buttoms. I think that to it's best model in the world.
www.cartopsgw.com.com (http://www.cartopsgw.com)

(http://)(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/cartop_album/iikdagiCampi-1.jpg)(http://)(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/cartop_album/rooftoptent100.jpg)
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: cartopcamper on December 26, 2008, 09:26:52 AM
Four seasons Eminent Car Roof Top Tent and winter camping.
İt has central heating under bed.

Mercedes Benz G-Class Accessories and car roof top tents.
www.cartopsgw.com(http://)(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/cartop_album/IkDaKKamp-1.jpg) (http://www.cartopsgw.com.com)
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: elhombre on December 26, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
If a roof top tent is what you need to get out into the outback and enjoy it, then more power to you.  But if you think a roof top tent is going to stop bears from eating you, then you need to talk to people who have camped in Yosemite NP about bears.  A sheet metal car doesn't bother them, and neither will a piece of canvas on top of a car.

There are a few problems with roof tops that should be mentioned.  Most weigh over #100 (ARB)and that kind of weight on the top of a car is completely the opposite thing you want if you are doing any low range 4x4ing.  Center of gravity is important for not only tipping over, but also traction to the front vs rear tires.  Try going up a few 1.5 foot steps with the weight all in the rear and the front tires will not pull the rest of the car up.  The extra weight up top is very stressful to the B an C posts on the truck.  Even tanks like Land Cruisers develope cracks at the tops of their second-door frames.  There is a loss of MPG due to the air no longer traveling over the top of your truck smoothly (hear that wind noise?).  Also, it is tough enough to find a much smaller (tent size) patch of ground that is smooth enough and angled correctly for a good night sleeping postition witout dealing with only 4 contact points that must be just right.

Finally, forgive me from being a little off topic, but if you believe that man is the "intruder" in the world that was made for us, please take time and focus on the creation around you.  Be brave and explore areas outside your comfort zone for the answers which you have not found yet.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on January 09, 2009, 01:36:23 PM
Be brave and explore areas outside your comfort zone for the answers which you have not found yet.

YEAH!!!!  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: cartopcamper on January 10, 2009, 10:13:09 AM
Tanks for your good thought. I saw Yosemite NP. at internet. İt's interesting and beautiful places. Really it's diificult to camping at this area. Bears can climbing very easy to car top tent. You must have a gun under pillow. But it's safely than other tents.(http://)(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/cartop_album/Antalya053.jpg)
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: Lorax on January 10, 2009, 08:33:27 PM
Camping sure is a personal thing!
Ted
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: BrettinSanAntonio on January 14, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
Holy crap. That's mine! Wow, it's really, really clean in those photos.

Once upon a time someone here had a cool converted M416 for sale.  The topic is gone, but the pics remain:

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20009.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20012.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20013.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20005.jpg)

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/offroadtrailer%20007.jpg)
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: campgal on January 19, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
I was hoping someone could tell me where I can see my rooftop tent? I live in So Cal.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on January 19, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
I was hoping someone could tell me where I can see my rooftop tent? I live in So Cal.

You're looking for dealers? Google 'tents, car, rooftop, ca' then winnow down the considerable hits to find the people near you and go look at one.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: campgal on January 19, 2009, 08:04:30 PM
I have one that I'm wanting to sale.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on January 19, 2009, 08:09:22 PM
I have one that I'm wanting to sale.

Well, now that that's clear, perhaps you'll find someone here who's interested. Otherwise, there's always eBay and Craigslist.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: campgal on January 19, 2009, 08:36:30 PM
Thank you I did try Craigslist. Not much luck with that. As for eBay I just don't know anything about it and I'm not that good with computers. Any other good ideas? I can use all the help I can get.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: presidio on January 19, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Thank you I did try Craigslist. Not much luck with that. As for eBay I just don't know anything about it and I'm not that good with computers. Any other good ideas? I can use all the help I can get.

Sorry, that pretty much exhausts my expertise in selling campers. The only other things I could suggest are to run a newspaper ad or see if a camper dealer will let you post an ad in their store (probably won't since you'll be competing with their business). The other options are to try and do the same with outdoor/camping oriented businesses in your area, sort of a consignment sales thing.

I sold a full size travel trailer a couple of years ago by posting flyers at my worksite. You are dealing with a commodity where you will have to seek out the buyers rather than them coming to you.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: homerboy2u on January 20, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
Thank you I did try Craigslist. Not much luck with that. As for eBay I just don't know anything about it and I'm not that good with computers. Any other good ideas? I can use all the help I can get.

 You never posted how much do you want for your camper,and why so expensive?.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: troubledog on January 12, 2013, 09:53:29 AM
this is an old post but I had not seen it before.  I finally installed my RTT this past year.  We've used in many times and it does make life easy, especially for my wife, who likes the comfort of the full size mattress and the 'security' of being off the ground.  The downside is you re tied to your vehicle and in really high winds, it can make a lot of racket late at night when you're trying to sleep.  Still, we like it and its a permanent part of our 4x4 traveling experience.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8479/8218742035_5b78e0df1d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dpmeaux/8218742035/)
Campsite, Guale-2, Big Bend Ranch state park (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dpmeaux/8218742035/) by troubledog (http://www.flickr.com/people/dpmeaux/), on Flickr
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: jim2 on January 12, 2013, 05:58:07 PM
some great shots of the state park! thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 4wd Roof Top Tents
Post by: Buck on May 10, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
As an alternative, it makes for a VERY interesting night if you sleep on the ground and purchase one of these 'decorative curtains' to hang nearby...

(http://cheapbeets.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hanging-meat.jpg)