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Offline MilesOfTexas

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International Scout II Question
« on: April 10, 2010, 11:29:47 AM »
I have never owned a true to life offroad 4x4, but after my trip earlier this week I learned that the best stuff cannot be reached via my Impala, haha!

I am considering buying an old International Harvester Scout II.  They look like they would fit the billet perfectly for something that I can tow down to BIBE and use while there.  My Dad, who lives in the hills of Georgia, says I can get one up there for around $2500 that is all set to go.

IIRC, International trucks are pretty tough, but I wanted to get yalls professional opinion about them.

So, my question is, what do yall think?
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Offline 04LJ

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 11:53:46 AM »
You'd be better off searching in cornbinder forums and owners groups. they are a breed unto them selfs. just because of parts availability I'd go Jeep or Toyota. If you really need something bigger look at Blazers or Broncos.
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Offline MilesOfTexas

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 12:48:30 PM »
You'd be better off searching in cornbinder forums and owners groups. they are a breed unto them selfs. just because of parts availability I'd go Jeep or Toyota. If you really need something bigger look at Blazers or Broncos.

Thanks for your input.  I'm not sure I can afford a Jeep, which is why I was looking for something else.  I haven't looked at any Toyotas, other than the FJ Cruiser, which I really love but is overkill for what I am trying to achieve.

I guess it would help if I explained what I am trying to achieve.  :icon_wink:

My goal is to have something small and light enough that I can tow down to BIBE instead of driving it down.  I just need a couple of front seats, and I would basically strip out everything else in the back.  I want to be able to install a strong box that I can lock up and seal against dust and water to stow my expensive camera equipment in.  And, I would want to be able to carry two spares similarly to the way that the baja racers do.  I can do the fabrication for that myslef, unless they make a kit for that.
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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 12:50:18 PM »
I'd think parts sources could be limited on such a ride, especially since the last Scout II was made over 30 years ago.  

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 01:14:39 PM »
As noted, spare parts could be a problem, and with a vehicle that is at best 30 years old, you will need parts from time to time.  Though it won't give you the open air atmosphere of a Scout or a Jeep CJ/YJ/Wrangler, you might want to consider a Jeep Cherokee.  There are some really good deals to had on the Cherokee's, even much newer models.  A lot of them were only used as 'mall crawlers' and haven't seen the abuse of off road travel.  You might even find one suitable for driving to and from.  Towing on many models might involve having to remove driveshaft(s), and can cause some serious tire wear.  If you don't want to drive it out there, I'd consider a trailer, assuming you have a proper tow vehicle.  Just some things to think about.

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 01:57:50 PM »
Thanks dk and oldjeepr!

I am going to take your advice, do some further research, and see what I can find within my small budget.
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Offline fc7cuda

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 05:22:40 PM »
Had a Scout II many years ago and it was a great off-road vehicle.  There are two for sale down the street from me, but as others have pointed out...an older vehicle of this type can require continued maintenance.  A newer Jeep of some nature would be worth the extra up front cost, in leau of vehicle failure and up-keep.  Broaden your search base for local vehicles, perhaps something in Ft. Stockton or Alpine could be of interest.  I've considered renting a vehicle down that way instead of buyiing one and paying storage down there.  Flat towing is not the way to go.

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Offline OldJeepr

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 05:51:58 PM »
Hey, don't mean to throw cold water on your idea.  I bought my old Jeep specifically for running backroads - with BIBE at the top of the list.  She's a trailer queen for the 12 hour drive out there and back - no a/c, 12mpg, and 29 years old, but she is a true Queen in her element.  
Little backstory:  We have been going to BIBE off and on since 1962, but had never been able to explore all the backroad areas because of vehicle limitations.  On a trip into town one day, I saw a jeep on the side of the road with a for sale sign on it.  The asking price was way more than I wanted to pay, but the seed was planted.  Started checking the local Craiglist out of curiosity to see if there was anything I could afford.  Now a lot of those sellers are really proud of their vehicles ($$$$$), but with a little patience this old gal showed up.  $3900 asking price, but $3600 with cash in hand.  (I've seen a few better deals since then, but a bird in hand.....).  Anyway, I have to say this was one of the most satisfying purchases I have ever made - not just the price, but the enjoyment.  I'm a little long in the tooth, and somewhat decrepit, so the long hikes are no longer a good option, but being able to enjoy the countryside, no doors, top off, idling down the backroads, is an experience to relish.
Moral of the story:  You have a good plan.  A good 4x4 will get you to places you want to go-start from-or end up, and expand the possibilities for you.  Hang in there - you'll be glad you did.  

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 06:16:27 PM »
I would go with a jeep or even a samurai because of the availability of parts.  Jeep cherokees are tough (I put 300,000 miles on one) and can be had for cheap.  Something else to consider is a small blazer.  I see plenty of them down here on the coast, and chevy parts are mostly cheaper then anything else.  If you are going to tow it out there and are not going to put giant tires on it, a four cylinder jeep is cheaper and still has plenty of power for cruising the backroads.  I have a 06 wrangler and drive it rather then tow it just because I am young and dumb.  A nine hour road trip with no doors or top is a little much sometimes, but like I said I am dumb.  Whatever you get, buy the best quality tires you can, and drive it like you stole it.

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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 08:44:44 PM »
If it's just 2 seats and some storage, A YJ comes to mind. 4 banger and some good tires, it'll be hard to beat.
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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 10:02:13 PM »
If it's just 2 seats and some storage, A YJ comes to mind. 4 banger and some good tires, it'll be hard to beat.

Thanks a lot, I'll check it out!  That's about all I need.
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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 10:08:09 PM »
If it's just 2 seats and some storage, A YJ comes to mind. 4 banger and some good tires, it'll be hard to beat.

Wow, someone put a 3.9L Cummins turbodiesel inline four-cylinder in one to get a lot more power and good fuel tank mileage: http://dieselpower.automotive.com/13131/0610dp-1993-jeep-yj-cummins-wrangler/index.html
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2010, 12:43:55 AM »
You'd be better off searching in cornbinder forums and owners groups. they are a breed unto them selfs. just because of parts availability I'd go Jeep or Toyota. If you really need something bigger look at Blazers or Broncos.
:icon_lol: :icon_lol:...Just bear with me ok?, don't get your hair's in your back all sprung on me. :icon_biggrin:

 In my humble opinion, my very really humble opinion, Scout II's are the most underated cornbinders on the market. Just take these facts in hand for starters:

* They come with the best 4x4 light vehicle axles on the market...Dana 44's. BTW, these are the ones Jeep Rubicons use. Explosion-Rockcrawler proof axles.
* It comes with the Dana T-300 Transfer case, a muscled bighorn sheep of a T-case, if you pick up the conversion kit from Advance Adapters,plus the output shaft kit, you will transform its 2.62 ratio to a 4:1 ratio...we are now talking Rubicon-Atlas Transfer case realm here...for ($$$$) thousands less. Thing is you don't have to rush this, it is a good ratio 2.62 to 1 as it is.
* It uses almost the same parts as a bronco Jr., need custom parts?, just ask away there are many web outlets out there to get OEM parts, if you want.
* Now you are talking diesel conversions here, when you say 3.9 cummins engine...you are talking Nirvana language...do you parle Nirvana diesel?, if so then check out this Incredible diesel conversion forum

 Bottom line,a Scout has one of the best 4x4 undercarriage in the market, at obscene rock bottom prices.

 I have a couple of friends here, who have Scouts. They started messing with them, little by little. Now they won't sell for anything you offer them, when you take that hardtop off, it is another world your cruising.

 And i'm not taking any credit off the Jeeps,BTW. Another excellent vehicle, IMO.

 Some videos to go along....
Scout with Nissan (original) diesel engine.Very rare to see them


Scout with Cummins 3.9 diesel engine.....nice conversion.

« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 01:09:32 AM by homerboy2u »
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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2010, 05:43:37 PM »
I really appreciate everyone's input!

I hate to say it, but I really favor the idea of the Scout, but the yj isn't a bad idea either.  However, I will certainly do some homework and run some ideas by yall after I do, if yall don't mind.
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Re: International Scout II Question
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 08:02:51 PM »
Once again, I would like to thank everyone for their input.  I decided to go with a 2007 FJ Cruiser 4x4 that I found with only 12K miles on it.  My 2002 Impala served me very well, and my only complaint is that it didn't have the clearance I need at BIBE.  It has a few aftermarket products, some you can see, and a couple you can't (GPS, Satellite radio, rear lockers, traction control, etc).

A few photos of the FJ I will be picking up tomorrow afternoon:







I really look forward to getting out to the places that I couldn't before!
"I have an excellent profession, but I don't enjoy it near as much as I do when I am in the heart of the wilderness, surrounded by marvelous creations, and efforting to capture what I see and feel so I may share it with others."

-Me 09/12/2011

 


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