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Time for New Shoes

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Offline OldJeepr

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Time for New Shoes
« on: February 02, 2010, 05:55:29 PM »
I started to bump up the old Tire Recommendations thread, but the opinions there are about 3 years old. 
Anyway, it's about time for the ole lady to get some new shoes.  I'm currently running 32x11.50 BFG Mud Terrains (no clue as to age since they were on the Jeep when I bought it about a year ago).  Tread on the front tires is getting a little shallow, but the rear tires are reasonably good.  My little bitty mind is saying get 4 new ones and keep the 2 rear tires as spares.  I'm leaning toward the BFG Mud Terrain KM2.  Most of the driving will be on backroads - rocks, sand, some mud.  Also looking at some Goodyear's with Kevlar belts, but the tread design looks a little strange.  Looks like a total package will be around $1000 (mounted, balanced, hazards).  Your thoughts will be appreciated. 

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Offline bcampbell

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 08:35:11 PM »
BFG's are good, but kinda pricey.  I have never had very good luck out of Goodyear tires.  Right now I have pathfinder all terrains from discount tire.  They seem to be holding up well, but the ride quality is poor.  Does anybody have any experience with Dunlop Radial Mud Rovers?

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Offline 01ACRViper

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 08:36:31 PM »
if you won't be dealing with a lot of mud, i'd go with BFG's AT. they'll have better road manners, perform better on everything but mud, be cheaper, and last longer

but i guess they won't look as knobby as MTs  :eusa_whistle:

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Offline homerboy2u

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 08:47:56 PM »
if you won't be dealing with a lot of mud, i'd go with BFG's AT. they'll have better road manners, perform better on everything but mud, be cheaper, and last longer

but i guess they won't look as knobby as MTs  :eusa_whistle:

 I too have had both, AT & MudTerrain, however if you are going to use your vehicle for commute and 4x4 you could be well off with All Terrain's but if you are planning on having your vehicle for outdoor activity Mud Terrains have proven to me they are one of the best.

 The fact is if the At's get in to lots of mud, they will quickly form a layer of mud around the tire and hence turn it smooth, thus slippage begins to settle in and then you get stuck. Plain and simple. Now what i like about the Mud terrains (BFG's) is that those babies claw in to the mud like long nails and really shovel your way out of a mess, those suckers really dig in to provide traction like no other tire I have seen before, other than Mud Boggers.

 So bottom line my money goes out to the Mud Terrains for what you have in mind to use them.
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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Offline Matador

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 10:48:40 PM »
Agree with Homero.  Have had BFG AT's and MT's on same Jeep.  MT's, and now MT2's get much better traction, clean out easily, and have great road manners.

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Ooopss!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 10:50:27 AM »
I forgot to put up the link to the Mud Boggers. These tires are completely off road tires, for obvious reasons.
Stay thirsty, my friends.

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Offline Doc Savage

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 11:42:20 AM »
I've run the BFG MTs off road here alot (I kept a set of street tires for daily driving). I love their performance in all but the deepest/slickest mud. Boggers are best if you expect to see deep mud. I have a set of BFG ATs on my current daily driver (and only driver now that the daughter has my trail rig with her at college). They preform OK in the Big Bend area. I was out a couple of years ago and ran into a real muddy strip and they made it thru pulling my m416 trailer. They did slip alot and get coated with mud, but keeping wheel speed up kept me going. Would have felt better with the MTs. Biggest issue with them around here in N AL is that they cover with mud in a heartbeat. They do wear pretty fast also, almost faster than the MTs on pavement it seems.

I ran a set of "mud kings" offroad as my first mud tire. Those had a pattern close to the BFG MTs and held up well until I went with the bigger MTs. Whatever you do don't get TSL Thornbirds. Those are the WORST offroad tires I've ever seen. Had someone with them on a jeep at a trail ride I was leading. He had nothing but problems in anything slick.

Robert
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Offline OldJeepr

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 09:38:25 PM »
Appreciate the responses.  You're reinforcing my inclination to go with the BFG MT2.  I had also thought about the Goodyear's with the kevlar for some extra sidewall strength, but almost all the reviews have been negative.  Looks like the BFG guy is gonna make a few bucks.

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Offline 04LJ

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 09:29:06 PM »
Cooper STT's   IF you're looking AT's you might eye General Grabber AT2  I've read good things.
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Offline OldJeepr

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 09:18:32 AM »
I went with the BFG MT KM2.  Haven't had a chance to get it off the road yet, but I really like the way the handle on the asphalt.  A lot less road noise and better handling than the old BFF MT's.  Plus, now I have two pretty good spares to tackle
BBRSP!  Just have to get the jerry cans and see if I can figure out the best way to refuel.

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Offline Doc Savage

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 03:03:10 PM »
...Just have to get the jerry cans and see if I can figure out the best way to refuel.

I'd recommend these.
http://store.colemans.com/cart/gerry-can-nato-p-908.html

Sorry work won't let me get to the best site, it has 4 for sale for about $120 I think. The NATO cans are great for not leaking regardless of angle. I've had standard US jerry cans leak bad. I use a long funnel in the tank, and a pump siphon (has the end looks like a gas pump) to just siphon the gas into the jeep. You can set the can on the seat/fender if the top is down, or on the flair with the top up. Saves trying to hold a full can up in the air.

Robert
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Offline OldJeepr

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 06:53:14 PM »
I'm holding off on the jerry cans till the new tire carrier gets here.  It's supposed to hold two jerry cans, blitz style.  Frankly, I'm getting a little confused.  Seems that Texas is now a "CARB requirement" state, so if jerry cans, siphons, etc., don't meet those requirements, suppliers can't/won't ship here.  The NATO style cans are supposed to be more reliable, but I'm a little hesitant about buying used cans (contamination?).  The new blitz cans price range jumps from $39 to $65, and reviews go from bad to good.  Same with the siphon pumps - good  reviews, bad reviews, compliant-non compliant.  I just want to make it simple for an old fogey.  Two gas cans on a carrier, get the gas from the can to the tank - preferably without having to lift it and pour through a funnel.  I've tasted gas before, so an okie credit card isn't out of the realm of possibilities, but it wouldn't be the first choice.

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Offline bcampbell

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 08:04:01 PM »
I made me a new cap with a pickup hose that extends to the bottom of the can, a shut off valve and a schrader valve.  I screw a piece of 1/2" fuel line to the valve, open it and then pressure the can with air.  You can empty a five gallon can in less than a minute using only a couple pounds of air.  The best thing is no heavy lifting and you can throw that junky CARB compliant spout as far as can.  I have seen this type of rig for sell on the internet, but can not for the life of me remember what it was called or who made it.

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Offline bcampbell

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 08:08:49 PM »
My gas dispensing gizmo is similar to this one.  http://www.tanamipump.com.au/pictures.htm

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Offline Doc Savage

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Re: Time for New Shoes
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 10:41:10 PM »
...  Seems that Texas is now a "CARB requirement" state, so if jerry cans, siphons, etc., don't meet those requirements, suppliers can't/won't ship here.  ...

Glad I'm in Bama then, no socialist crap like CARB. Those new gas tanks spill more gas than old cans released fumes any day.

I'd really consider something besides Blitz cans. Those things are junk from everyone I've heard of who had one. Used cans aren't a real issue. I've had lots of good luck. Worst case would be if the liner is chipped/ cracked and that can be handled easily with a chain in the can to clean it, and then use POR15 to line it. (could even take it to a radiator shop and have it vatted to clean it, then use the POR15).

Robert
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