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Backcountry Permit Software

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2015, 12:07:11 PM »
Jim,
do the numbers in the graph include all backcountry permits?  Backpackers (zone campers), backcountry roadside sites and river use?  Is it possible to get a breakdown of those three groups?  I love my stats, thanks.   :icon_biggrin:
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Re: Backcountry Trivia
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2015, 01:28:26 PM »
The graph is for ALL permits.  I have not done the (tedious) work of separating the types of permits.

There is also the issue of how to count; theoretically a single permit could be issued for Chisos, roadside, zone, and river camping.  The overlapping on one permit can confuse the issue.
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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2015, 02:04:05 PM »
Assuming a permit can consist of more than one reservation, is what is being plotted the number of reservations per day or the permits per day? Tricky thing would be to sort them by reservation type, i.e. designated, roadside, zone, or river, which is probably handled in the database with a flag. Queries could be fairly easily written assuming access to a basic database utility.  :eusa_eh:

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2015, 03:48:38 PM »
is what is being plotted the number of reservations per day or the permits per day?

To confirm, it's simply the number of permits issued day by day.
 
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here's the same info in graph form of the average number of permits issued per day for the past two years
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Re: Backcountry Trivia
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2015, 12:06:56 PM »
Answers in a few days.

For those inquiring minds who want to know:

1) What is the most occupied Chisos camp site (based on days per year covered by a permit)?  SW-4 Southwest Rim, followed by TM-1 Toll Mountain, and SW3 Southwest Rim

2) What is the least occupied Chisos camp site?  NE-5 Northeast Rim, followed by LW-2 Laguna West, and BL-2 and BL-1 Blue Creek

3) What is the most occupied Roadside camp site?  GH1 Grapevine Hills, followed by PG1 Paint Gap, PC5 Pine Canyon, and KB2 K-Bar

4) What is the least occupied Roadside camp site?  JR1 Johnson Ranch, followed by JR2 Johnson Ranch, DT1 Dominguez Trailhead, and TC1 Telephone Canyon

5) Excluding river zones, what is the most used zone (based on total "permit-days" since multiple permits are allowed per day)?  By far, the top 3 zones are C04 Dodson Zone, followed by C05 Blue Creek Zone, followed by C03 Lower Juniper Zone.  Other than these three OML zones, E08 Marufo Vega Zone comes in fourth.

6) Which zone has never had a permit issued for it in the past two years?  N04 - North Rosillos Zone
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Re: Backcountry Trivia
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2015, 08:28:24 PM »
6) Which zone has never had a permit issued for it in the past two years?  N04 - North Rosillos Zone

Now that is just screaming to be answered  :icon_biggrin: Someone needs to take up that challenge.

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2016, 11:12:58 AM »
Another year has come and gone for El Campo.  With 3 full years of data now, it might be of interest to some to see the distribution of ALL PERMITS issued by month and by day of the week.

So you might find solitude on a Tuesday in August!  :icon_smile:
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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2016, 12:50:41 PM »
Jim, this is great thanks.  Do you have a breakdown between backcountry permits and roadside campsites?  And last year you teased us with which zones were least visited, possible again?
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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »
Jim, this is great thanks.  Do you have a breakdown between backcountry permits and roadside campsites?  And last year you teased us with which zones were least visited, possible again?

I can slice and dice by campsite usage, but PERMITS cannot be binomially defined as either backcountry XOR roadside since it is not unusual for a permit to contain both those types of campsites.  But for a specific date range I can show you a bar graph of the number of days used for individual campsites grouped by Chisos/Roadside/Zone/River.

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2016, 03:26:09 PM »
Yes, I forgot that permits can have everything on them.  What I am really interested in is Zone vs. everything else.
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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2016, 05:38:27 PM »
Yes, I forgot that permits can have everything on them.  What I am really interested in is Zone vs. everything else.

Here are the number of days each site was used overt the past 366 days (the past year) for Roadside, Chisos, Zone, and River.

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2016, 06:09:39 PM »
For the Zone and River plots:  Are those "Total calendar days permitted" or "Total permit days"?  :eusa_think:

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2016, 06:15:20 PM »
Ugh... terminology.

Total Permit Days - since zone and river sites may have more than one permit associated with it on any particular calendar day.

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2016, 06:42:07 PM »
Ugh... terminology.

Total Permit Days - since zone and river sites may have more than one permit associated with it on any particular calendar day.
Thanks! Those are very useful and informative plots!  :great:

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Re: Backcountry Permit Software
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2016, 08:06:13 PM »
Awesome stuff Jim, one last request (I think), can you do zone by month?  If not this is an incredible amount of info, always grateful for you volunteer work!
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
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