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Camping Limit?

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Offline ReDiscovering

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Camping Limit?
« on: January 14, 2007, 11:41:40 AM »
from NPS.GOV

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Camping Limits
Visitors cannot camp at backcountry campsites for more than 14 consecutive nights, or for more than 28 nights (including both frontcountry and backcountry camping) in a calendar year, or at any one site for more than 14 nights in a calendar year.


What does this mean?   That I can only camp a total of 28 nights in a calandar year??   Whaaaa?

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Offline okiehiker

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That is correct...
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 12:26:50 PM »
Those are indeed the rules.  I think that I have only broken that rule twice in 31 years, in the late 1980's and early 90's and only by a day or two.

The rule really exists to prevent abuse and the only possible way you would be identified is if you kept a popular site occupied from Thanksgiving through New Years or say through the month of March.  Once the system is computerized that may change.  In that case simply get permits in the names of different group members.  

If you plan to camp in the park for more than a month by yourself you have the free time lots of us can only dream about until retirement!

To comply with the spirit of the regulation, frequent campers should consider more remote or less often visited parts of the park.  This also makes your stay more interesting.  

This is a case of the park service needing to craft regulations for the most inconsiderate of us, those who would keep a site in the Basin or at RGV for two months straight, keeping other people out.  This gives them the authority to open up sites for new-comers.
Funny... I have a story about that...

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Offline ReDiscovering

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 12:44:27 PM »
so this means that if I go every other weekend and camp for only one night, I would over-stay my allotment by the end of the year?   hummmm.  ok

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Offline okiehiker

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Not quite
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 01:40:01 PM »
Every other weekend would be 26 nights.  If you went every other weekend though and camped 2 nights you would exceed your allotment by 24 days!  And pay $260 in permit fees!  (No charge to Presidio for pointing out his concern)   :wink:
Funny... I have a story about that...

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Re: Camping Limit?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 02:04:27 PM »
Quote from: "ReDiscovering"
from NPS.GOV

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Camping Limits
Visitors cannot camp at backcountry campsites for more than 14 consecutive nights, or for more than 28 nights (including both frontcountry and backcountry camping) in a calendar year, or at any one site for more than 14 nights in a calendar year.


What does this mean?   That I can only camp a total of 28 nights in a calandar year??   Whaaaa?


Great way around this is to become a volunteer with the NPS at BIBE.  I figure when I win the lottery and/or retire, I'll volunteer a ton out at BIBE manning the station at Persimmon Gap or helping build trails.  
http://www.nps.gov/bibe/supportyourpark/volunteer.htm

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Re: Not quite
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 02:33:33 PM »
Quote from: "okiehiker"
(No charge to Presidio for pointing out his concern)   :wink:


Hey, thanks!  :D

As a practical matter, I doubt whether the limit actually is enforced very often. It's principle purpose would seem to be to avoid someone monopolizing a campsite to the exclusion of others or becoming a virtual permanent resident.

Unless the NPS is entering permit data in some relational database (highly doubtful as that would be extremely labor intensive) it would be nearly impossible to keep track of camper days. I suppose if you were there so often as to be known on sight you might be trackable. But, it is a very large park...

The bottom line is that if you are not affecting others' use of campsites by your frequent presence and are not causing any problems, I imagine you would be undisturbed in your reverie....as long as you pay your fees  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 06:22:02 PM »
OK, Thank you everybody.  That's very helpful.   Knowing the reason behind the rule makes perfect sense.   And no I doubt I'll be able to make more than once a month if that.  It just seemed restricting, especially for you guys who live near there.

 


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