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Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP

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Offline RichardM

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2013, 04:37:07 PM »
One significant feature that this adds is that you can see what interest there is for specific sites. During hectic times like Spring Break, this would give you a heads-up on making contingency plans. No more eavesdropping on fellow campers while standing in line.

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Offline elhombre

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2013, 04:46:08 PM »
No cell phone.  No Facebook.  And only wear a watch while on vacation so I know how long till dark..... :dance:

Princes Sunshine aka. Cookie has it a little different.... :icon_rolleyes:
For 2 years the Fake News Media, Obama's FBI, CIA & DOJ, and Swamp dwelling Politicians COLLUDED, Illegally Spied,and LIED to America about POTUS in order to overturn an election

All the while demanding censorship and removal of opposition Conservative "hate speech" voices.  Globalists Hate Freedom

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2013, 08:44:50 AM »
My recent experience 10/31/13 with the new system is a little different. We were anxiously waiting in line for a back country permit at 4:30, Panther Junction behind a really slow couple dealing with a really slow ranger. We're talking about "retirement home meets postoffice" slow - two-finger pecking at the keyboard and jumping around from window to window, looking for this and that pane, asking the others for help getting information entered.
I'm tapping my foot, watching the clock with a 5:00 deadline approaching, thinking the "window closed" sign might come out before I make it up there. There were two other rangers killing time while this slow poke was killing me!
I had my downloaded worksheet all nicely filled out and I was about to start waving it in the air when the ranger looked up (he must have finally noticed me about to pee on myself) and said, "If you have a smart phone, you can enter the information on the web site and save some time." DANG! I whistled my hiking friend off the displays and put him to work. He had it all entered by the time the slow train to nowhere shuffled off and we were registered two minutes of "ranger time." That's all I know about it.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2013, 09:22:50 AM »
FYI... since the new year is approaching, you might be interested in this note from page 8 of the 2013 compendium:
http://www.nps.gov/bibe/parkmgmt/upload/Signed-compendium.pdf

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Camping in any combination of front or back country campsites for more than 28 nights in a 12 month time period is prohibited.  The 12 month time period is measured from July 1st through June 30th.  Between February 1st and April 15th, only 14 nights in any combination of front or back country campsites is allowed.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2013, 09:58:11 AM »
FYI... since the new year is approaching, you might be interested in this note from page 8 of the 2013 compendium:
http://www.nps.gov/bibe/parkmgmt/upload/Signed-compendium.pdf

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Camping in any combination of front or back country campsites for more than 28 nights in a 12 month time period is prohibited.  The 12 month time period is measured from July 1st through June 30th.  Between February 1st and April 15th, only 14 nights in any combination of front or back country campsites is allowed.

It doesn't surprise me that bureaucrats seem to have the insatiable need to make more inane rules. The funny thing is, how would NPS monitor this. How about if I sign in with different names every time. It's all a waste of time and effort.........
Not all those who wander are lost.
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Offline Al

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2013, 12:59:50 PM »
which may be why they ask for your drivers license.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2013, 05:11:47 PM »
which may be why they ask for your drivers license.

License plate number only for front country, but the car could be used by multiple people during the course of a year.
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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2013, 08:15:29 PM »
Hopefully the rule is only in place for squatters and rarely enforced.

And speaking of niggling rules, someone got busted today for having tents set up in the full hook-up RV section at RGV. :eusa_naughty:

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Offline Al

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2013, 11:23:47 PM »
Shame shame shame on them.  NOT!  I can't help but wonder why the overflow camping at RGV was shut down all those years ago, much less why it was created in the first place . . . fond memories of camping there away from the maddening crowd.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2013, 03:09:33 PM »
Hopefully the rule is only in place for squatters and rarely enforced.

And speaking of niggling rules, someone got busted today for having tents set up in the full hook-up RV section at RGV. :eusa_naughty:

Were these the same people that put hot charcoal briquets in the dumpster and started a fire?

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »
Hopefully the rule is only in place for squatters and rarely enforced.

And speaking of niggling rules, someone got busted today for having tents set up in the full hook-up RV section at RGV. :eusa_naughty:

Were these the same people that put hot charcoal briquets in the dumpster and started a fire?
I doubt it. These were BBC members with a propane grill, I believe.

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Offline FatPacker

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2014, 11:10:09 AM »
something we learned about the El Campo system

It allowed us to create a worksheet for the campsites we wanted (for Friday night) on Thursday morning.
So I thought we were good to go....
but when I arrived at the PJ visitor's center Friday at 9:00 am, my sheet had been purged overnight.
the ranger said she did not know why it does that, but that is what had been happening.

Lucky for us we were there early and there were not many people requesting spots.
But I could have wound up with a 3rd choice selection, or no place to camp if it were another time of the year.
If I had known this, I could have re-created my worksheet from the hotel in Ft Stockton at 5 am Friday morning...

just a word to to the wise...
Are we there yet?

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2014, 12:56:43 PM »
Creating a worksheet doesn't help you get a site.  Even if you had created a new one that morning, someone could have gotten to a visitor center before you and gotten the site you wanted.  It's still first come first serve.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2014, 03:21:25 PM »
I created my sheet at 7:05 am in the rest stop between Ft. Stockton & Marathon (there didn't used to be service there, had 3 bars this time). I was at PJ at 8:45 am so I was first in line. Had my permits and was out of the VC at 9:08 am. Worked like a champ for me, but YMMV.
Atta boy, girl!

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Offline Goatlegs

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2014, 10:28:10 PM »
So, let me get this straight...  Instead of allowing backpackers coming from, say, 600 miles away to plan ahead and reserve backcountry campsites ahead of time (like every other national park I've ever visited), Big Bend rolls out this, uh, "online worksheet acceleration system" that does nothing more than get the paperwork started?  Hmmm...

Here's a crazy thought:  Why not join the 21st century and take reservations for campsites 3, 4 or 6 months in advance?  That system seems to work pretty well for those other parks like Grand Canyon, Glacier, Yellowstone...seems like it would work for Big Bend.

Sorry, but this just seems so backward to me...I'm very underwhelmed.  Not sure why I'd even bother to use it, frankly.
Goatlegs

 


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