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Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP

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Offline TexasAggieHiker

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2014, 10:46:46 AM »
The online system makes it a lot easier for the park service to issue permits.  Under the old paper system, if someone wanted to get or change a permit at one of the other visitor centers around the park, the ranger would have to call to Panther Junction and coordinate over the phone to issue the permit.  Now a permit can be issued straight from the system at any visitor center.  And hopefully the new system will help eliminate double bookings that some people have had to deal with.
I don't mind that you can't reserve a backcountry permit online.  Yeah, it would make it easier, especially for me.  But a lot of people don't plan trips 6 months in advance.  The fist come first served system is fair enough for me.  I'm mainly in the park during the busier times, and I've never had any real problems of getting the itinerary I wanted.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2014, 12:16:15 PM »
I guess it is what it is, so we'll deal with it.  Just seems strange the way they seem dead-set against making long-range reservations.  We've walked up to places like Grand Canyon and been able to find good permits, but we've also reserved spots months ahead.  Most places allow both methods. 

We're making our first Big Bend trip in a couple of weeks. Hoping we don't get to the backcountry office after 9 hours on the road to find out we can't get anything our planned route.  We're "zone camping" for most of the trip, but want one of the Juniper sites the first night.  I'm sure we'll figure out a good route no matter what.
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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2014, 12:30:32 PM »

Hoping we don't get to the backcountry office after 9 hours on the road to find out we can't get anything our planned route.

That's not going to happen.


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Offline Goatlegs

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2014, 12:51:05 PM »
Ok, good to hear.  Doing the OML, so wondering if water at Fresno & Boot Springs. Caching water at Homer.
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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2014, 12:52:05 PM »
I guess it is what it is, so we'll deal with it.  Just seems strange the way they seem dead-set against making long-range reservations.  We've walked up to places like Grand Canyon and been able to find good permits, but we've also reserved spots months ahead.  Most places allow both methods. 

We're making our first Big Bend trip in a couple of weeks. Hoping we don't get to the backcountry office after 9 hours on the road to find out we can't get anything our planned route.  We're "zone camping" for most of the trip, but want one of the Juniper sites the first night.  I'm sure we'll figure out a good route no matter what.
You've got about a 95% chance of getting what you want.  You will get the zone you want.  And you'll have no problem getting a Juniper site.  Outside of Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Spring Break you won't have any issues.  Even during those "busy" times, I've always gotten the itinerary I wanted or one very close to it.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2014, 03:20:51 PM »
I agree with Texas Aggie Hiker.   And, if by some remote chance chance the Juniper sites are all taken, you'll be able to get another one along or off Glen Spring Road, such as Pine Canyon, Rice Tank, or Glen Spring itself.   
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Online Jim

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2014, 04:17:38 PM »
FYI... since the new year is approaching, you might be interested in this note from page 8 of the 2013 compendium:
http://www.nps.gov/bibe/parkmgmt/upload/Signed-compendium.pdf

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Camping in any combination of front or back country campsites for more than 28 nights in a 12 month time period is prohibited.  The 12 month time period is measured from July 1st through June 30th.  Between February 1st and April 15th, only 14 nights in any combination of front or back country campsites is allowed.

FYI... The 2014 compendium has changed the 12 month time interval for the 28 day per year camping limit back to a calendar year.

Camping in any combination of front or back country campsites for more than 28 nights in a 12 month time period is prohibited. The 12 month time period is measured from January 1st through December 31st.  From January 1 through April 15th, only 14 nights in any combination of front or back country campsites is allowed.

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Offline Don H

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2015, 01:05:00 PM »
Creating a worksheet doesn't help you get a site.  Even if you had created a new one that morning, someone could have gotten to a visitor center before you and gotten the site you wanted.  It's still first come first serve.


Is this in fact the case? - if so, it would behoove me to arrive at a ranger station when they open in the morning.  Filling out the worksheet only speeds things up I guess?
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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2015, 01:14:22 PM »
Correctamundo.

Moderator Note: the latest address for El Campo is as follows.
New El Campo IP
« Last Edit: September 16, 2015, 03:01:03 PM by RichardM »

Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2016, 11:02:38 AM »
Is this site no longer active? It's not responding today.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2016, 11:09:32 AM »
Is this site no longer active? It's not responding today.

Just clicked on the Link above your post (provided by Jim), and it worked fine (Firefox user). Hope you'll be able to access the site, too!
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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2016, 11:22:15 AM »
Is this site no longer active? It's not responding today.

Just clicked on the Link above your post (provided by Jim), and it worked fine (Firefox user). Hope you'll be able to access the site, too!

Yes, it's up now.

Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2016, 11:34:04 AM »
I guess I was hitting a previous IP address that is not longer supported. Why don't they used a domain? And why not redirect the old IPs to the working one?

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2016, 01:22:48 PM »
I guess I was hitting a previous IP address that is not longer supported. Why don't they used a domain? And why not redirect the old IPs to the working one?
My guess is that they are not quite yet comfortable enough with it to make it easily accessible. I get the impression that they would prefer people only access it while at PJ.

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Re: Online Backcountry permitting now available for BBNP
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2016, 04:01:04 PM »
We used El Campo for our recent visit and it was overall a positive experience.  We entered at Persimmon Gap, and there was an older couple working the visitor center that afternoon.  They were both very pleasant, and it didn't take the woman long to figure out where my information was.  I was ready for a stern lecture but instead only received encouragement from these two.  One night I had hoped to book Fresno but it was taken.  So I picked Elephant Tusk instead, and when I asked if my Tundra would be ok on that portion of Black Gap, she said I'd have no problems, then told my wife to keep an eye out for marigolds.  It was a perfect start to what would end up being pretty much a perfect trip.


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