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Primitive Camping Question

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Offline Allan

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Primitive Camping Question
« on: February 24, 2017, 08:13:12 PM »
Hey guys I had a couple of question. Hope you don't mind. Im going next week with a group of 5 and we are looking to go primitive car camping but we really don't know which location would be good. The only two criterias would be that its secluded, not entirely in the middle of nowhere but also to the point that we could be alone with minimal contact with other people. The second would just be a spot where star gazing would be awesome and viewable.  which would you guys chose for those criterias????????? thanks for your time to read this and answering!! (the bottom is the list of campsites available)

Primitive Roadside Campsites— Croton Springs
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Grapevine Hills
Primitive Roadside Campsite— Hannold Draw
Primitive Roadside Campsites— K-Bar
Primitive Roadside Campsite— Nine Point Draw
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Old Maverick Road
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Paint Gap

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Offline elhombre

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 08:23:22 PM »
What do you define as "Primitive Camping"?  ( Food prep, water, trash, bathroom, car?)

Do all your 4 friends have the same expectations/ experiences?

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Offline Allan

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 09:16:59 PM »
Yes sir, "Primitive car campsites"

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Offline Allan

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2017, 09:17:50 PM »
Water and food is no problem, we'll be bringing our own.

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Online Al

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 09:41:21 PM »
Of those sites I would prefer Ocotillo Grove for great views and decent privacy (occasional cars pass by going to Terligua Abajo) or Paint Gap 4 mainly for privacy since it is the end of the road.

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Offline Jimbow

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 09:43:41 PM »
Anything at the end of roads or with a spur will get you seclusion. Night skies are great all over.

And traffic on the unimproved roads is never bad at night.

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Everything is in walking distance if you have enough time.

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Offline Cookie

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 09:29:10 AM »
Hey guys I had a couple of question. Hope you don't mind. Im going next week with a group of 5 and we are looking to go primitive car camping but we really don't know which location would be good. The only two criterias would be that its secluded, not entirely in the middle of nowhere but also to the point that we could be alone with minimal contact with other people. The second would just be a spot where star gazing would be awesome and viewable.  which would you guys chose for those criterias????????? thanks for your time to read this and answering!! (the bottom is the list of campsites available)

Primitive Roadside Campsites— Croton Springs
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Grapevine Hills
Primitive Roadside Campsite— Hannold Draw
Primitive Roadside Campsites— K-Bar
Primitive Roadside Campsite— Nine Point Draw
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Old Maverick Road
Primitive Roadside Campsites— Paint Gap

There are a LOT more backcountry campsites available. What kind of car you are driving will make more sites available. Also some sites will not be available because of the number of campers. Sites off Glenn Springs Rd. can be accessed fairly easily now  in a low slung car because of the road maintenance.

Are you and your group ok with digging a hole and packing out your TP? Nothing worse than pulling into camp after driving hours to get away from civilization and seeing somebody's used TP or exploring around camp and finding a big pile of poo in the open.

I would avoid Croton unless you like camping with two other groups in a parking lot. Two of the paint Gap sites only allow 4 people and PG4 you need 4wheel/high clearance.

Hope you have a great time! Star gazing will not be an issue unless it's cloudy :eusa_doh:

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Offline bam.bam

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 09:36:11 PM »
Alan, you better have a backup plan for those sites. Those are low clearance vehicle sites. You competing with cars  for those selections. This time a year if you walked up and got one, I would consider you being a very lucky person.  More and more people are going to BB. Note: Someone will be camping in them, the question is will it be you and if not what is your backup plan..
K-Bar 2 meets your requirements.  I made a slow circle with my binoculars one clear evening,  not one artificial light to be seen, no towers, antennas blinking, nothing....and it was a  "no moon" dark sky!  Good luck!!

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Offline Arroyo15

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 10:50:56 AM »
Allan, I would lover to hear how your trip went, and hear if you found a secluded spot.

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Offline Imre

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 07:47:03 PM »
I camped at K-bar for many years, albeit not recently. I'm glad to learn there's not light pollution, that was one aspect of the site that i really liked. One advantage of K-bar is that it's only a few miles from panther junction, just in case you require access to clean water in the middle of the night.
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Offline puzzlejug

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Re: Primitive Camping Question
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 05:59:32 AM »
so FYI, the "primitive roadside campgrounds" are literally  a square of gravel in the middle of nowhere to park your car.  That's it.  There's no trash can, no water, no restroom. 

It sounds like what you're looking for is a regular camping spot such as the chisos basin, cottonwood, or rio grande village
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If you are adventurous though, i would recommend the actual primitive roadside campgrounds.  Paint gap is a pretty good one, and you'll have great star gazing at night

Yes sir, "Primitive car campsites"

 


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