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"Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.

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Offline Sneed1979

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"Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« on: November 02, 2017, 12:16:14 PM »
Let me preface this by saying, conditions were DRY!
We just got back from a week there. We did ALL of the backroads in a stock Jeep Wrangler. I never once used the 4wd. Never even engaged it. The extra clearance certainly helped, but 2wd all the way. I understand that if the conditions had been wet, it would have been a different story. But don't be scared of those signs. Be smart, go slow, choose your lines carefully, and use common sense. You might skip parts of Black Gap, and a few places on River Road West were touch & go, but all the rest of the roads were easy.

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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 12:45:59 PM »
Let me preface this by saying, conditions were DRY!
We just got back from a week there. We did ALL of the backroads in a stock Jeep Wrangler. I never once used the 4wd. Never even engaged it. The extra clearance certainly helped, but 2wd all the way. I understand that if the conditions had been wet, it would have been a different story. But don't be scared of those signs. Be smart, go slow, choose your lines carefully, and use common sense. You might skip parts of Black Gap, and a few places on River Road West were touch & go, but all the rest of the roads were easy.

The NPS road/trail difficulty ratings are seriously skewed toward the most inept of travelers; the kind that get lost/stuck in Walmart parking lots.

The agency does a great disservice to the greater majority of capable folks with their extreme level of dire warnings about these things, when those in the most inept category seldom leave the pavement or get very far from visitor centers and passport stamps that prove what incredible outdoors folks they are.
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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 01:43:12 PM »
All those warnings, and yet Old Ore Road's posted speed limit is 25 mph!  I've driven it numerous times, and there's only about a mile of it that can be driven at that speed without leaving parts of your vehicle behind...   :icon_lol:
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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 02:04:46 PM »
All those warnings, and yet Old Ore Road's posted speed limit is 25 mph!  I've driven it numerous times, and there's only about a mile of it that can be driven at that speed without leaving parts of your vehicle behind...   :icon_lol:

It's simple. The NPS left hand does not know what the NPS right hand is doing.
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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 04:58:02 PM »
Let me preface this by saying, conditions were DRY!
We just got back from a week there. We did ALL of the backroads in a stock Jeep Wrangler. I never once used the 4wd. Never even engaged it. The extra clearance certainly helped, but 2wd all the way. I understand that if the conditions had been wet, it would have been a different story. But don't be scared of those signs. Be smart, go slow, choose your lines carefully, and use common sense. You might skip parts of Black Gap, and a few places on River Road West were touch & go, but all the rest of the roads were easy.

Next time, spend some time in the State Park and exercise that transfer case and front diff.  :great:
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Offline Sneed1979

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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 06:22:47 PM »
All those warnings, and yet Old Ore Road's posted speed limit is 25 mph!  I've driven it numerous times, and there's only about a mile of it that can be driven at that speed without leaving parts of your vehicle behind...   :icon_lol:

True. I think I averaged 10 mph overall for the whole week, and I don't think I ever hit 25.

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Re: "Newbies" worried about 4wd, look here.
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 01:56:48 PM »
Let me preface this by saying, conditions were DRY!
We just got back from a week there. We did ALL of the backroads in a stock Jeep Wrangler. I never once used the 4wd. Never even engaged it. The extra clearance certainly helped, but 2wd all the way. I understand that if the conditions had been wet, it would have been a different story. But don't be scared of those signs. Be smart, go slow, choose your lines carefully, and use common sense. You might skip parts of Black Gap, and a few places on River Road West were touch & go, but all the rest of the roads were easy.

Next time, spend some time in the State Park and exercise that transfer case and front diff.  :great:
Agreed!   I discovered Paseo Al Solitario trail last year when I was there.  What a great trail!
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