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4x4 Releated Questions

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Offline McTraveler

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4x4 Releated Questions
« on: March 08, 2010, 10:17:59 AM »
This is actually McTraveler's husband.  She pulling me off into the wild and I want to make sure we're ready to go.
I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 with 20 inch rims.  The tires are Goodyear Wrangler HPs.  They are 4 ply.  The tires have a lot more miles in them but definitely on the downside of their mileage.  I'm looking for advice on whether my tires will survive the trip or if I need to bite the bullet and buy new tires.  We plan on taking things pretty slow.  It's the first time either of us have been there and we want to make sure and soak up the scenery.  The roads we're planning on taking are River Road, Old Ore Road and Paint Gap Road.  Our campsite is Fresno. 

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Online Al

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 10:28:16 AM »
If they are worn out replace them but not just because you are going to Big Bend.  None of the roads even require 4x4 except perhaps River Rd East right after a rain.

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Offline McTraveler

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 10:49:02 AM »
Thanks Al.  I guess I made it sound like my tires are worn out.  They have a lot more miles in them.  I'm not down to the treadwear indicators yet but they are on the horizon.  Are the roads rough enough that if I'm not down to the indicators but getting close then I should go ahead and get new tires?

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Offline RichardM

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 11:02:16 AM »
Hard to say how much more likely a worn tire would be punctured than a new one, but I'd definitely recommend at least one good spare, an air compressor (or at least a good pump), and a patch kit.

Check out these topics as well:
Need help preparing truck for backcountry road exploration
Tire Repair

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Online Al

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 11:09:59 AM »
Yup, be prepared, but if you watch your speed, the roads in the Nat'l Park aren't that hard on tires.  The State Park on the other hand . . .

Al

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 11:46:07 AM »
Thanks much.  I plan on having all of the above and plan on looking at purchasing an extra spare.  Just in case.  We are going to the State Park too so if you have any advice that would be great.  I believe we are going to be in the Guale #2 Campsite.  The research indicates the State Park roads are much rougher so I still might have to bite the bullet and buy a new set of tires...

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 11:59:59 AM »
If you are going on back roads in the state park, get rid of those street tires. It's no place for blingy rims and tires. if it's dry you be alright in the Nat'l park, if it rains you'll need good at's or even muds and 4 wheel drive.
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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 01:38:35 PM »
Echo what '04LJ said... 20" rim/tires have no place on backroads.  A 16" rim with a good set of A/T's will serve you far better.  I've gotten out of some amazing mudholes with nothing but standard 15" steel rims and Wrangler RT/S's on a '05 Wrangler.

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 02:12:24 PM »
The 20" tire & wheel is original equipment on most of the Dodge Ram 1500s. P275/60R20 if memory serves.

You'll be just fine in the national park.   

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Offline elhombre

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 07:05:47 PM »
The road out to Guale is rougher than old ore road.  If you don't mind pin striping on the side of your truck, then you should do OK.  Get a patch kit with the glue and awl. 
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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 08:28:52 PM »
Thanks for the help.  After your comments on BB State Park my husband called and had a long conversation with a ranger at the Saucedo who very strongly recommended 8 ply tires for the road to Guale "2. Guess we will be pricing tires tomorrow..

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Offline WL2

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 08:33:33 PM »
You indicated the tires are in good shape just a little tread wear.  So, some would argue to keep the old tires and not risk a new one on the rocks.  The most likely tire failure at BIBE is the random rock cut on a sidewall.  Since it is a random event it can happen even with a new tire. 

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Online Al

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2010, 09:06:48 PM »
McTraveler go buy those tires, will ya!  I hope you know this thread is going to cost you a complete, well documented with many pictures, trip report!

Al

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Offline McTraveler

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 10:13:02 PM »
Yes I know - tires will for sure be purchased and detailed trip report with pics will follow when we return from BBNP and BBRSP...

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Re: 4x4 Releated Questions
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 01:43:25 AM »
Guale 2 is one of the most remote and hard to get to sites of BBRSP. You can expect pin stripes for sure. As others have mentioned 20' wheels aren't the best. Let us know how it went :-)
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