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Black Gap Road Clearance

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Offline The Scorpion

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Black Gap Road Clearance
« on: February 12, 2008, 09:53:10 AM »
Im thinking of doing black gap road this spring break and was wondering if my Chevy Trailblazer has enough clearance to make the "drop" in the black gap road. Its 2 WD and I have novice to intermediate off road driving skils.
here is a shot of my Trailblazer at the start of Old Ore Road




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Offline bdann

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 10:08:23 AM »
You'd likely have enough clearance for the big drop in the "gap", however, that's not the worse part of the road currently.  There are some really rough washes beyond the gap (when driving South to North) and there's a few sections on some of the big hills that are really torn up.  We did have to engage the 4x4 at one point, though we probably could've gotten through without.  The 4x4 just made it easier, MUCH easier.  I'm sure someone will chime in and tell you that 4x4 isn't needed on the Black Gap and that they, with their expert off-road driving ability, could drive anything down any road that BIBE has to offer...but the Black Gap has seen better days, I wouldn't risk the full length of the road without 4x4. 
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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 06:48:52 PM »
Im thinking of doing black gap road this spring break and was wondering if my Chevy Trailblazer has enough clearance to make the "drop" in the black gap road. Its 2 WD and I have novice to intermediate off road driving skils.
here is a shot of my Trailblazer at the start of Old Ore Road



That's not much body clearance. It also appears you have the usual P-series tires all manufacturers equip their SUVs (and even some 4WD pickups) with. Proper tires are as much of the equation as skill. All-terrain tires do perceptibly improve a vehicle's ability to negotiate rough ground, as well as having a more durable carcass that better protects from ripping out sidewalls and puncturing treads. However, given your assessment of experience, you might want to play it by ear if you decide to drive the road. You can always turn around if it gets too rough, but keep in mind that sometimes you can go up or down things that turn out to be not so easy the other direction. You don't want to get dry-gulched.

Best case would be to travel with another vehicle so you at least have some support. Be sure to take a shovel and a tow strap; there's nothing worse than encountering an otherwise small problem and not having the tools to tackle it.
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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 08:32:19 PM »
Best case would be to travel with another vehicle so you at least have some support. Be sure to take a shovel and a tow strap; there's nothing worse than encountering an otherwise small problem and not having the tools to tackle it.

If I were you I'd only attempt it if Viper was along to tow you out.  :icon_lol:

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Offline The Scorpion

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 10:55:01 PM »
I may not do the short section of black gap where the "drop off" is (maybe on foot) , but i do plan on going back to rice tank and Glenn spring area. I think I should be ok going that far as long as I stay away from the "drop off". I have been back to pine canyon in the trailblazer with no problems.

yes I have bumped the bottom of the trailblazer a few times in bibe and its got some sorry tires for off road, but since I only go off road in bibe, I need high mileage tires.  I know my limits and have a fear of getting stuck so i always take precaution.

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 08:53:44 AM »
When you say you are going back to Rice Tank and Glenn Springs, do you mean you'll be starting out there and going back?   My opinion is the road is more difficult starting from the North end and heading South.  When we drove the Black Gap on Saturday (2/9), we started at the southern end on the River Rd and headed North.  There were several sections that we went through that had us thinking, "glad we aren't coming back this way!"...  The "gap" is the least of your worries, at least there you can get out and build up the rocks to suit you, which is what we did. 

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 09:23:52 AM »
Leave the shovel at home, you can't dig in the Black Gap. Take a pick and gloves.
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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 11:00:27 AM »
I will take glenn spring road from the main road to RGV back to rice tank and then down to glenn spring.

is that section of road going both south and north in decent shape or will it pose problems.

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 11:49:11 AM »
ok, so, if i'm understanding you correctly...  You're starting at the paved rd, going down the Glenn Springs Rd to the River Rd, then to RGV, then back down the River Rd, back up the Glenn Springs Rd to Glenn Springs. 



I outlined that path in red.  Taking this path you will avoid the Black Gap all together.  It is not necessary to drive the Black Gap to get to Glenn Springs.
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Offline bdann

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 12:06:54 PM »
Maybe this will help:



The red line is the Glenn Springs Rd, the only really bad part is right after you pass the turn off to get on the Black Gap.  There's usually water in the area and sometimes the road gets a bit rutted, which it was on Saturday.  I think you could get through it though.  We didn't actually drive South on the GS Rd from Glenn Springs, but we went through the intersection (turned North) and it was pretty rutted. 

The green line is the bad section of the Black Gap, including the "gap", the big hills with poor traction, big ruts, steep decents/ascents into washes, etc.

The blue line is the easy part of the Black Gap.
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Offline The Scorpion

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 12:32:42 PM »
my planned route does follow the path you out lined in red, but I will more than likely stop  and park where I can at the turn off for the black gap road that is marked in green and turn around. I have some hiking to do in that area and dont plan on going futher south than the turn off to black gap road.

I have a map like the one you posted at home, but a lot of good that does me at work. I dont have any photo editing tools at work so I could not point this out earlier so thanks for taking the time to draw the route

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 02:50:29 PM »
You shouldn't take that vehicle down that hill onto Black Gap. Likely you will not make it back up, and you sure will not make it more than 40 yards after you reach the bottom there.

I went down that entry to black gap in my 4wd, and my buddy came down behind me in his front wheel drive Toyota Highlander. He didn't make it across the first obstacle without nearly taking off his rear bumper. After the drop is a much worse washout section, and we decided it was best to turn him around. I then pulled his Highlander back up to the Glenn Springs Trail and we went around Black Gap. I was dissapointed, but he wouldn't have made it.



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Offline The Scorpion

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 04:43:48 PM »
You shouldn't take that vehicle down that hill onto Black Gap. Likely you will not make it back up, and you sure will not make it more than 40 yards after you reach the bottom there.


thanks for the info, I decided not to drive to that section of the road. I will probablly park somewhere not blocking  the road and hike around for a bit and get some photos of the area

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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2008, 10:14:38 PM »
Last time we went on Black Gap, we drove my wifes Land Rover Discovery II. Here's some pictures on Black Gap...





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Re: Black Gap Road Clearance
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2008, 10:34:33 PM »
Last time we went on Black Gap, we drove my wifes Land Rover Discovery II. Here's some pictures on Black Gap...



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