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Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?

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Offline RichardM

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2008, 11:29:59 AM »
None of the photos showing the Honda would prevent driving via regular vehicle, where was the photo off road taken, looks like might be park violation. In either case, the photos do not show Big Bends really rough roads.
This pic looks like it's from just outside the park boundaries at Indian Head. Here's the view from the top of that hill from my last trip:

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 07:02:03 PM »
Works for me, not intended to insult anyone.
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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 09:42:22 PM »
Understood all! Thanks for the responses.

I'm aware that the Element is not "true" 4WD...was just curious if it might allow me to go on some of the back roads that my PT Cruiser won't. The PT is really low to the ground.

I'm interested in a nice, semi-economical every day driver that might also be used for camping
6-8 times per year and backroads driving, within reason, a couple of time a year in BB. Having always admired the Vanagons, the pop top conversion of the Element intrigues me.

Have to see how it all plays out...the PT will be paid for soon and I plan to drive it for at least another year...maybe two...before getting something else. By then I may be after something totally different from the Element...like a Hummer.  :eusa_naughty: NOT!
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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 10:04:52 PM »
I love paid-for vehicles!  I have three: two we bought 10 years ago, the truck and a sedan, and one we inherited; 1998, 1998 and 1997, respectively.  I haven't had a car payment in years.  Think about it.  You can rent a pick up for a week for less than a month's typical car payment, money in the bank.  Cars are a depreciating "asset" with few exceptions.  Having said that I'll probably buy a new car in the next year or two if for no other reason than my wife doesn't trust older cars.  In the mean time they cost a fraction of a new car payment even with the occasionally required repairs.

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 10:39:40 PM »
Understood all! Thanks for the responses.

I'm aware that the Element is not "true" 4WD...was just curious if it might allow me to go on some of the back roads that my PT Cruiser won't. The PT is really low to the ground.

I'm interested in a nice, semi-economical every day driver that might also be used for camping
6-8 times per year and backroads driving, within reason, a couple of time a year in BB. Having always admired the Vanagons, the pop top conversion of the Element intrigues me.

Have to see how it all plays out...the PT will be paid for soon and I plan to drive it for at least another year...maybe two...before getting something else. By then I may be after something totally different from the Element...like a Hummer.  :eusa_naughty: NOT!
   Bill


You should keep an eye out for a Ford Ranger or a Toyota Tacoma.  These are great 4wd trucks and they are giving them away.  For years I drove a Ford Ranger 4x4 and got anywhere I wanted in the park with no issues.  I would just upgrade the tires on what ever you get.  It might be a great time to move on these while they are dirt cheap.  I bought Gas yesterday for my 77 Ford for $2.37 a gallon in Austin.  And in the Sunday paper they where selling the Ford FX4 Super Cab Truck (really nice optioned F150 4x4) for $18k Brand New this is 50 cents on the Dollar to list.  I almost bought one since it was so darn cheap.

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 10:52:01 PM »
I love paid-for vehicles! . I haven't had a car payment in years.    Cars are a depreciating "asset" with few exceptions.  Having said that I'll probably buy a new car in the next year or two if for no other reason than my wife doesn't trust older cars.  In the mean time they cost a fraction of a new car payment even with the occasionally required repairs.

Al

 Like Al,Professor i too love paid for vehicles...I just look at them and sigh in relief!! :icon_biggrin:,on the other hand,what i invested on my truck to ,try, and keep it up to date so to speak is just not worth it vs. getting a newer one.

 Answering your initail question, the Honda Element is an AWD vehicle, like Madplanter said AWD is NOT 4x4. It all comes down to the gearing, the lower the gearing the less stress over the transmission it will have,perfect for rock crawling, in it's basic stage,and some obstacle jumping as well.The higher the gearing the fastest the turning..perfect for Mud riding where you need your tires to turn very fast to stay on top of the soil...easier said than done. :icon_rolleyes:

 If you get a 4x4 vehicle, you actually don't need a big rig to get you from point A to point B. One of the best trucks i have fond likings are the Toyota's 4x4. Specially the ones with solid axles on the front. You have a large array of options , should you want to go with a small 4x4, they will still get you moving out in the back country and help you spend a great time where other folks just can't get too.

 As always in this modern,recessionist world..what it all comes down to is Budget!. If you can fork some dinero, other than your basic needs of travel and keep your 4x4 on the side for your excursions and back country trips you know where to start looking. There are hundreds of great places for parts and used vehicles to help you do that. Other than that,just enjoy your PT Cruiser and get a chance to go to Big Bend when ever you can.

Works for me, not intended to insult anyone.

 I don't see where you insulted anyone,Undertaker :eusa_doh:

Cheers :beer_chug:
« Last Edit: October 20, 2008, 11:21:31 PM by homerboy2u2 »
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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 10:54:22 PM »
Understood all! Thanks for the responses.

I'm aware that the Element is not "true" 4WD...was just curious if it might allow me to go on some of the back roads that my PT Cruiser won't. The PT is really low to the ground.

I'm interested in a nice, semi-economical every day driver that might also be used for camping
6-8 times per year and backroads driving, within reason, a couple of time a year in BB. Having always admired the Vanagons, the pop top conversion of the Element intrigues me.

Have to see how it all plays out...the PT will be paid for soon and I plan to drive it for at least another year...maybe two...before getting something else. By then I may be after something totally different from the Element...like a Hummer.  :eusa_naughty: NOT!
   Bill


You should keep an eye out for a Ford Ranger or a Toyota Tacoma.  These are great 4wd trucks and they are giving them away.  For years I drove a Ford Ranger 4x4 and got anywhere I wanted in the park with no issues.  I would just upgrade the tires on what ever you get.  It might be a great time to move on these while they are dirt cheap.  I bought Gas yesterday for my 77 Ford for $2.37 a gallon in Austin.  And in the Sunday paper they where selling the Ford FX4 Super Cab Truck (really nice optioned F150 4x4) for $18k Brand New this is 50 cents on the Dollar to list.  I almost bought one since it was so darn cheap.

It IS incredibly tempting right now and probably will be for how long?  Might be a buyer's market for a while yet.  A two or three year old truck or SUV is cheaper now than it's been in many years. VERY tempting.

Al

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2008, 11:21:16 PM »
Homero, there is a point of diminishing return with most any vehicle.  You can pick up a very nice 4x4 used truck for under $10K these days.  Quite tempting!  Install a lift kit and the right tires and you're good to go for the foreseeable future!

Al

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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 08:05:06 AM »
Love Paid for vehicles, don't owe anything on any vehicle, including new Rogue. F-350 Diesel 4x4 is 1999, 250,000 miles going strong, my note is only my fuel, which is going down thank God, 150 gals allow considerable freedom in shopping and travel.  :eusa_dance: :eusa_dance:

PS: Although I get reasonably good mileage 18-19 on highway at 65, does any experience with the electronic fuel saving devices on the market, power production not important I already can tow anything I have or plan on owning.
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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2008, 09:09:38 AM »
  Although I get reasonably good mileage 18-19 on highway at 65, does any experience with the electronic fuel saving devices on the market, power production not important I already can tow anything I have or plan on owning.

 Yes sir!!..even at 250,000 miles ,your vehicle being a diesel is just settling down on the service life expectancy. Your F-350 should last you, with proper maintenance up to 1.3 Million miles before you have to install new rings,gaskets and other engine parts.The most i have seen on a diesel truck is 750,000 miles ,but i still have not stumble upon a 1 million mile truck, guess i will have to be patient a little longer.

Now for engine upgrades for better response and mileage..this is my source for great add ons , which i have taken my time to purchase them. They don't come cheap,but once installed they work wonders for your engine: Better mileage,better response,less pollution..... BanksPower.com
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Re: Honda Element AWD on Back Roads?
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2008, 08:18:42 PM »
Thanks for information Homero looking mostly for fuel mileage increase, my previous Ford diesel ran 550,000 miles both me and son. My wife even claims I have been known to pull over during a trip to change oil, I am not quite that bad, but regular maintenance and care is necessary for a long healthy life, this applies to vehicle and self. :eusa_dance: :eusa_dance:
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