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River road east

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Offline trtlrock

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Re: River road east
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2012, 05:05:24 PM »
grapevine and pine canyon. how do these roads compare to the ones mentioned here?

Grapevine might as well be paved in terms of difficulty, so it's no test. Pine depends on when you go, but it was in great (i.e. easy) shape in February. Just go slow. Paint Gap after PG3 is gnarly.
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Re: River road east
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 05:59:03 PM »
grapevine and pine canyon. how do these roads compare to the ones mentioned here?

Grapevine might as well be paved in terms of difficulty, so it's no test. Pine depends on when you go, but it was in great (i.e. easy) shape in February. Just go slow. Paint Gap after PG3 is gnarly.

Grapevine is good enough for a car, but sometimes washboardy (if that's a word?)
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Offline Quatro

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Re: River road east
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2012, 06:20:47 PM »
RGV to Ernst Tinaja should be fine or at least was fine as of 30 days ago.  The roughest part was the first half mile.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro - HST

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Re: River road east
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2013, 10:34:02 AM »
I realize this thread be about RRE, but see a lot of postings regarding Paint Gap 4.  Spent the latter half of last week camped out there.  First time to ever do a Paint Gap spot (we did the end of Grapevine Hills 5 years back or so).



The road up to the gap would be a breeze dry in any vehicle, but we drove in last Wednesday after an afternoon / evening of rain and slid about a bit (lifted Dodge 4X4 with knobbies).  Other members of the party drove in earlier in a Tahoe (4x4) and 2010 Chevy pickup, both stock.  No clearance problems for anyone going through the gap.  Our family car is a 2006 Ford Freestyle and and I would have no problem getting that in and out of the Gap.

The old homesite above Dripping Springs is an easy hike down the road past PG4 where it loops around on itself.  The road at one time extended further N/NW and we followed that to what looked like an old primitive spot on a flat that  overlooked the Paint Gap drainage where it hits the Tornillo Creek drainage.  Lots of water above the Spring as a result of rain.



"Dripping Spring"


Our original intention was an overnight at Laguna Meadow Thursday and down through Blue Creek to climb around in the 'caves' on Friday but the snow scared us off.  We hiked into the hot springs Thursday night to find them flooded and frothy.  The trip out of the springs resulted in a cracked elbow (failed practical joke) and trip to Alpine hospital on Friday (and an excellent Chile Verde plate at Alicias).  Members of the party that stayed behind in the Bend had lunch at the lodge and then drinks in Lajitas.  We got in just in time to get back in a car and drive to Terlingua for dinner at the Starlite.  Tilapia street tacos were great, but the guacamole could stand to be replaced by avocado slices.  We then proceeded to kick off the Terlingua pub crawl.  Which didn't last very long.

The camping gang of 10 years past would have laughed at the bunch that showed at the bend this year checking cell phone's for Denver/Baltimore scores and sleeping on cots and driving up to the PJ every time someone needed to 'cut weight'.  I only set up my new Hogback long enough to tie off some guy lines on the vestibule doors.  The only place I had room to set up was UNDER the Kelty sun shade and then had to take it down because one of the guys was feeling hot in the sun.

We've been into the mines, rappelled Talley and the Alto Relex, did Cross Canyon unprepared and on a whim, and inadvertently launched an Xterra across a wash on Old Ore.

I think we're getting old and lazy.



Anyhow... last time we were on old Ore (10 years back?) it was worse than Paint Gap is currently.

And the Springs were finally usable Saturday night.  Everything you hear that happens at the springs happened:  pot, skinny dipping, incense, bongoes, cigars, whiskey and other questionable liquors, walks across to Mexico, and brief appearance by a high school girls church group who had never been to the springs. (disclaimer:  Our group was responsible only for cigars, whiskey, and Mexico). 

Fun night.
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