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All ranch roads are privately maintained and maintenance is paid for by the property owners association (POATRI). For those that live in the city, think of it like the private lakes, tennis courts, pools and bike paths in certain housing developments. They are maintained for the use of the home owners - not for the general public.As an owner and part-time resident here in Terlingua Ranch, I do not appreciate people "exploring" the roads around my property unless they are my neighbors or they are researching property that is actually posted as "for sale". The ranch is not a public park. And, although most of the land here is unimproved and used only occasionally by the owners, you should expect them to view you as trespassers if you are not actually a property owner and are not with a realtor. One exception comes to mind and that is accessing the Christmas Mountains land. Permits are issued at the Ranch office. I think it is understood by land owners that you cannot get to the access points without crossing private lands. (As a footnote, the majority of the Terlingua Ranch Road being discussed here is actually in Big Bend NP and therefore subject to park fees and park rules. until recently, they allowed land owners to use the road if they were going directly to property in the ranch, but now you are required to pay the park admission fee even if you are only driving through to your land.)
Presidio....Whenever I go to Big Bend I always drive around on TR roads, looking for that perfect piece of property that would allow me to camp without the burden of dealing with NPS campground fees, regulations and oversight. Does this mean that theoretically you could park along the side of the road on the section of road that is not Big Bend without Ranger jurisdiction. I.e. that stretch of road that is going through private property.
No. Because once you leave the roadbed, you are on private property. Those TR roads are not like public routes that have easements/rights-of-way wider than the travel surface. That of course begs the question about waterbars and drainage turnouts that intrude onto the private property. Fundamentally, they are not part of the travel surface so parking on them without owner permission clearly would be a case of trespassing.
Quote from: presidio on July 04, 2019, 11:25:48 AMNo. Because once you leave the roadbed, you are on private property. Those TR roads are not like public routes that have easements/rights-of-way wider than the travel surface. That of course begs the question about waterbars and drainage turnouts that intrude onto the private property. Fundamentally, they are not part of the travel surface so parking on them without owner permission clearly would be a case of trespassing.
It is incorrect to say "TR roads are not like public routes"
TR roads are 100% PRIVATE roads maintained by POATRI. They are paid for by the land owners and maintained so that land owners can get to their property. Think of them as shared driveways with private maintenance. Within the boundaries of the ranch, the only exceptions are those roads that are maintained by the county (paved Terlingua Ranch road). Unless you are with a realtor/buying land, please stay on the main roads and don't go exploring. Otherwise, you are trespassing.
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