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Current conditions

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Offline wotantx

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Current conditions
« on: March 07, 2018, 02:01:26 PM »
Greetings! This is my first post.

We'll be arriving on Saturday for a three day trip. I'm trying to plan what we're going to do and when. Two of things I would like to try to do are the Ernst Tinaja and Pine Canyon trails. I have 2WD (super crew f150, Texas edition, all terrain tires) and I wanted to see if the Old Ore road from the south and Glenn Springs from the north are currently in good shape for such a vehicle?

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Offline TXbywayofMS

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 02:24:40 PM »
Cant speak about Old Ore, but I was on Glen Springs and Pine Canyon a couple of weeks ago and it is pretty easy going. Youll be fine in your F150.

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Offline wotantx

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 03:39:17 PM »
Cant speak about Old Ore, but I was on Glen Springs and Pine Canyon a couple of weeks ago and it is pretty easy going. Youll be fine in your F150.

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Offline hansbockler

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2019, 09:22:12 AM »
hey man i'm thinking of doing the same two trails you speak of in december - - how did it go on your F150? I'll be in a similar setup: 2WD full sized dodge. What do you think?

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Offline PacingTheCage

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2019, 10:18:03 AM »
You should be fine. Iíve driven my wifeís Subaru Outback on both Glenn Springs and Pine Canyon. No issues.

Also drove it to the Dodson/Juniper Canyon trailhead. No problems although very unwise since she has passenger tires on her car. No clearance issues but Iím lucky I didnít puncture or cut a tire on the numerous sharp rocks, etc.


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Online elhombre

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2019, 03:18:23 PM »
Big difference in an all wheel drive subaru, verses a 2 wheel drive truck.  Two wheel drive truck will have slippage and all the power will go to the slipping/spinning rear wheel when it looses traction.  Not so on an all wheel drive car.  One wheel looses traction, and power is "taken away" from the slipping wheel.  It does not spin out (much).  No spin out means a much less chance of cutting a tire on a mean old rock.  Two wheel drive truck has a greater chance of cutting a tire, compared to an all wheel drive car.  The difference is magnified on a crappy road like Juniper.

I guarantee a two wheel drive truck will be spinning and spitting rocks when it drives up out of the creek bed past Nugent campsite (Glen Springs Rd).  Those two wheel drive cars are what cause the washboards that grace the road on that section.  After Thanksgiving, the road will be in pretty bad shape.  If you have good tires like BFG AT's or the like, you should be fine.  Just easy on the skinny pedal.
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Offline presidio

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Re: Current conditions
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2019, 03:37:37 PM »
Two wheel drive truck will have slippage and all the power will go to the slipping/spinning rear wheel when it looses traction.

And that is when the adept 2WD operator engages 'OkieTracTM.'

Judicious application (start lightly) of the emergency brake will bind, or at least slow down, the spinning wheel as long as said brake operates on the drive axle.

Equally judicious application of the accelerator pedal also is necessary.

With patience, experimentation and operator skill, you would be surprised at what it can do. It's not going to get you out of a real bind, but will help if all you need is a bit of resistance on the spinning side.
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