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Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 10:54:00 AM »
 :rolling:

Nothing other than English is apparently not my best language... Which is troubling considering my Spanish is much worse and as far as I know I don't speak anything else. Mortality / immortality... What's the difference  :icon_biggrin:

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 11:20:44 AM »
I don't think I get to pick :icon_lol: so I hike frequently and with a smile on my face.

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 03:18:05 PM »
That's right! Just swing for the bleachers!  :icon_mrgreen:

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 06:32:14 PM »
April, my heart goes out to you.  I can't imagine what you went through.

Brian Behrs is not in it.  I couldn't fit all the major incidents that happened in the park into a reasonably sized volume, although I probably covered about half.  I didn't go back earlier than the early 1980s because it was too hard to track people down.  Finding rangers, victims, and their families was a major part of the work in this book, especially for the earlier incidents.  Even in the roughly 30 years that I did cover in the book, people retired, people got married, people died.  It took quite a lot of detective work talking to people, using the internet, and telephoning to reach the people that I needed to talk to.

Hey, iCe, watch out hiking in 105-degree heat!  You don't want to be featured in my follow up volume.

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2010, 07:48:57 PM »
Thanks Laurence. I do watch out for the most part. I had a camelback and I topped it off before I headed out. My GPS said there was a road and there was no obvious road so I had to go see. It was only 2 miles round trip... but I drained the camelback  :icon_smile: My only concern was being solo, on the Old Ore Road, and nobody knew I was there... which is in hindsight, a pretty big concern.

I'm going to buy your book. Is it available on Kindle?

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 01:44:10 AM »
Laurence I ordered your book today via FSB.  I will read it and then send to my bro, who will be coming down to BB in January.

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 05:46:53 AM »
Laurence I ordered your book today via FSB.  I will read it and then send to my bro, who will be coming down to BB in January.

Mine is on the way too, can't wait to read it.
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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 07:55:55 AM »
Oh dang! I should probably pay closer attention to who authors the books that I read  :icon_lol:

I've got:
(2) copies (one Kindle and one paperback) of: Hiking Big Bend National Park
(1) paperback copy of: Hiking Texas, 2nd: A Guide to 85 of the State's Greatest Hiking Adventures

Until I did a search for Death in Big Bend I had never noticed who authored them

I've become a fan of the Kindle. In fact, I referenced Hiking Big Bend National Park a few times last weekend. It's very well written and I go to it often (even if I've already been there and done the hike).

Death in Big Bend isn't on Amazon yet. Hopefully the Kindle edition will come out soon. In the meantime I think I'll buy a real book from Front Street Books. Hmmm... If I actually go to Marathon and pick a copy up the park is just down the road... no harm in taking a side trip through the park right? It's only an hour or so south and it only takes a few days to find my way out of the park...  :icon_biggrin: better order it... my customers might not appreciate me disappearing again  :icon_lol:

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2010, 08:39:04 AM »
Excellent cover!!!


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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2010, 08:42:54 AM »
Yes it is! I think I know that guy  :icon_lol:

Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2010, 03:32:36 PM »

Hey, iCe, watch out hiking in 105-degree heat!  You don't want to be featured in my follow up volume.

No kidding! The day your interview ran on KRTS, one of the interns or volunteers was on giggling about getting lost and heatstroked. I guess she didn't listen to your interview.

You dealt with the issues in this book well, I was just wondering about one thing - there is one completely no fault death chronicled in this book (except nature), were there more of those you encountered in your research (not the specific type of incident, but general no fault incidents)? Sorry to be vague, trying to not give too much away to those who haven't received it yet.

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 03:19:00 PM »
I received my book today (thanks Front Street Books).

I just read the Carl Springer and Shannon Roberts stories and that'll do for one day. This book is going to take some time get through. I read Shannon Roberts first. I was interesting. Carl Springer's story was, I don't know... it's hard to describe the feeling... intense.

I have to say... I'm far from knowing all of the park but Carl's story was intense because I'm somewhat familiar with that area. The OML is on my list of things to do. I was thinking solo, not so much at the moment.

Very well written Laurence...

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2010, 07:30:01 PM »
Got my copy today from Front Street Books.  Ordered it Wednesday.  I know what I will be reading all weekend...

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2010, 09:35:38 AM »
I can't put the dang book down. I can't remember the last time I read a book cover to cover in so little time. I have 3 stories to go. I should be mowing my yard right now Laurence!  :icon_lol:

It's been a little unnerving to find out that I have been at the spot where people have passed on a few of my trips to the park. The good news is that I am going to review the way that I hike in the desert. I'm usually pretty cautious about what I wear and what I take with me but I've had a couple of "this ain't the trail" experiences when I only had enough water for "a short hike to xxxx" That doesn't mean I'm going to load a pack with 3 days of food for a trip out to Mule Ears Spring but I will think the "short" trips through a little more.

When I drove the OOR I had an ice chest with 2 gallons of water and fresh ice in the truck plus I bought two liters at the store that morning. I still had 1/2 pound of jerky and 6 granola bars too. At the time I thought that I was being too cautious. I reckon not.

Great book Laurence!

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Re: Death in Big Bend by Laurence Parent
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2010, 01:33:14 PM »
I have a 2nd cousin who went on a trip out there a few months ago with some of his buddies. They're all about 19-20 something. They hiked in both BBRSP and BBNP. On one of the long hikes, they took an off-trail short cut on the way back and got lost.

They didn't have a topo map. They were out of food and had little water. They had nothing to make shelter (no poncho, blanket, jackets, etc.).

They spent the night out there. They managed to find their way back the next morning, most fortunately.

When I asked what trail they were hiking, I got an "I dunno". Then I asked what park (BBRSP or BBNP)? Also got an "I dunno".

I hate to call my relative a dumbarse, but what they did was big-time STUPID (i.e. flirting with the Darwin award kinda stupid). I suspect some stories in LP's book start just like my cousin's story.

 


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