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Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 05:59:07 PM »
The ranger told us that bears had been really active and nosy.  His advice was to keep our food in our sleeping bags with us!!?

Well, that's either simply pure incompetence by the people in funny hats, or they  haven't had to body bag anyone in a while, are bored and looking for some excitement. You sort of have to make your own entertainment when living in paradise since after a while the surroundings become so mundane....same sunrise, same sunset every day, but always new faces of gullible tourists who look to the NPS for guidance on important matters of self-sufficiency.
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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 04:26:30 PM »
I have been wondering about this thread.  I can't imagine a ranger or volunteer who has gone through an orientation to Big Bend that would suggest food inside a sleeping bag.  The Big Bend Bears have yet to learn about people food the way they have in other parts of the country.  In the Chisos there are lots of bear proof boxes for food.  In the desert there hasn't been an issue.  however as populations grow, bears will range farther and the zone campers in the desert will have to be careful.  That said, I can't even think of ranger that would be that sarcastic.  Maybe it was an old timer like me and they meant to say..."don't put food in your tent".  That would be my likely guess.

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 05:12:54 PM »
The ranger told us that bears had been really active and nosy.  His advice was to keep our food in our sleeping bags with us!!?

Well, that's either simply pure incompetence by the people in funny hats, or they  haven't had to body bag anyone in a while, are bored and looking for some excitement. You sort of have to make your own entertainment when living in paradise since after a while the surroundings become so mundane....same sunrise, same sunset every day, but always new faces of gullible tourists who look to the NPS for guidance on important matters of self-sufficiency.

Presidio,
 :rolling: :rolling:
I had a sh@^ty day at work today, but I must say this one made me forget about it.
 :rolling: :rolling:

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 05:49:12 PM »
Call the ranger up and request he sleep with your food to protect it, you sleep about 100 yards away, report screaming on return to basin.  :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
Visiting BB since 1966, nothing like being lost and finding heaven.

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 06:43:28 PM »
When I was zone camping near Chimneys, mid November, I was told the same thing.  By a very green ranger, I might add.  He said he was quoting superiors.  His concern, he said, was aggressive skunks.  I did not heed his advice to keep the food in my tent.  In the desert, I usually hang it up in an ocotillo.  never any problems. 

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 10:07:12 PM »
Just got back from the OML a few weeks ago. Saw a nice big black bear about 75 feet away from the Juniper Canyon Campsite just 50 ft off the trail. There was a tent still set up at the site. A couple of days later, I spoke to the backpackers who were camped there when we saw the bear. They had no idea they had a visitor that morning.

When getting our permit, the rangers told us that the bears up on the Rim had lost their fear of backpackers and were approaching campsites during the day looking for food. They encouraged us to yell and throw rocks if we saw one approaching us.

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 10:14:51 PM »
That's good advice.  It worked the one time we had a bear charge our camp in New Mexico.  He turned around and ran back up the hill.

Al

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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 11:10:47 PM »
The ranger told us that bears had been really active and nosy.  His advice was to keep our food in our sleeping bags with us!!?

Well, that's either simply pure incompetence by the people in funny hats, or they  haven't had to body bag anyone in a while, are bored and looking for some excitement. You sort of have to make your own entertainment when living in paradise since after a while the surroundings become so mundane....same sunrise, same sunset every day, but always new faces of gullible tourists who look to the NPS for guidance on important matters of self-sufficiency.

Presidio,
 :rolling: :rolling:
I had a sh@^ty day at work today, but I must say this one made me forget about it.
 :rolling: :rolling:

Thanks

So happy to be of assistance  :eusa_dance: :icon_lol:
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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 11:12:55 PM »
Call the ranger up and request he sleep with your food to protect it, you sleep about 100 yards away, report screaming on return to basin.  :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Now THAT'S extremely funny
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Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones): If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here.
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Re: Food Protection for OML/Dodson trail
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 11:15:06 PM »
I was told the same thing. He said he was quoting superiors.

Clearly, the voice of experience. Those guys in the funny hats need to get outdoors more often and camp out so they can get even more experience.
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Wendell (Garret Dillahunt): It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?
Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones): If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here.
--No Country for Old Men (2007)

 


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