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My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience

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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2016, 10:52:56 AM »
Panther,

My recent trip to BB has me thinking more and more about the idea of "backpacking".  What was it that added so much weight (other than food that you mentioned)?  If you had to go again, what would you leave out that you took?

In my research and reading so far, it looks like 3 major expenses I'd need to make to have the proper equipment to pull off something like the OML;  a good light weight 1-2 person tent, a good lightweight but warm sleeping bag, a good lightweight sleeping bag pad.  Does that sound right to everyone??

I'd say other definite needs that I don't see are really expensive would be a small burner (saw some all alloy metal ones for $20 for heating water for food/drink and a filter for water (those looked reasonable as well).

Other needs I think most campers would already have (light, first aid, backpack).

Also, he mentioned a bear vault.  I didn't see a lot of comments on that.  What do most do with their food at night?  I'm wondering about the already opened food containers I'd be caring as trash to haul out.  Having that in ziplock, is that good enough?

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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2016, 11:08:11 AM »
No need for a bear canister unless you plan to leave your food unattended.  Most folks just lay their food bag a few feet away from their sleeping bag/tent.  Here is the NPS Food Storage page.

As to what to carry lots of threads in the General Camping Equipment board.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 03:56:03 PM »
For the OML you do not need a tent or a water filter (pills work just fine).
Wake me when it's time to go.

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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 05:26:46 PM »
One stupid cactus crushing monkey's camping ideas:   Tent or some kind of rain protection,  2 pair of underwear, one cotton for sleeping, and the other fancy synthetic ones for hiking all day.  2 pair of socks - alternate them each day for the fresh feeling.  Also life saver if one pair gets wet.   Quilt for sleeping in.  The BEST thing ever invented for desert and cold Colorado.   http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/  A pad to sleep on  -   Foam is light and doesn't get holes in it, but air is much more comfortable (less than 2#).  Food wise  --  learn that just because you opened a cliff bar doesn't mean you have to eat the entire thing at on stop.  One bar can be the morning and afternoon snack.  Oat meal for breakfast,  very light.  Same pair of pants the entire trip.  Real silk undershirt to act as sun shield and first layer when cold.  One hiking shirt worn the entire time (synthetic).

Most importantly, a small ration of whiskey for each night to make the pain go away.  (Note:  Lewis and Clark rationed each man 5 oz. of whiskey/ day)

No bear canister!  Stupid Ranger propaganda.
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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 06:29:23 PM »
Quilt for sleeping in.  The BEST thing ever invented for desert and cold Colorado.   http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/

Most importantly, a small ration of whiskey for each night to make the pain go away.  (Note:  Lewis and Clark rationed each man 5 oz. of whiskey/ day)


Dude!  You will for sure have a lighter pack than me now, quilt is 21st century!  And yes to the whiskey.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2016, 06:44:37 PM »
Get a titanium flask for your whiskey to go ultralight.

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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2016, 09:13:00 AM »
Yes, the whiskey goes without mentioning.

That "quilt" by Enlightened Equipment looks really nice.  I've been wanting to upgrade my old off the shelf from WalMart sleeping bags.  They're not warm enough in cold weather and too hot & sticky in warm weather. Plus they're no where close to light and compactable.

What makes it a quilt and not a sleeping bag? Looks like it zips closed. See something that might allow you to leave the feet area open..

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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2016, 09:58:38 AM »
My "Revolution" model can be opened up all the way and used as a blanket in warm weather.  As I camp in cooler places, I start by snapping the foot box closed.  This wraps around lower legs and feet.  As I need more warmth, I can zip the foot box closed to completely cover my lower legs.  Go warmer by pulling draw strings in at the very bottom seam and the foot box completely shuts so no air moves through.  This system requires a sleeping pad of your choice.  It has small clips at the middle and top of the blanket. 2 Elastic cords attach to the two pairs of clips so that the blanket is held on to your sleeping mattress (foam or air).  Basically, you close up the quilt around you as your need for warmth increases.  It saves weight and bulk because there isn't wasted sleeping bag material under you.  We are sleeping on our mattress directly.  We use REI "Air rail" mattresses because they have a high R value.  (approx. 4.2 or so)

 We have been in them for over 30 nights now, and haven't had any problems.  Time will tell how long they will stay clean and warm, and how well they preform after washing them.
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Re: My Recent Outer Mountain Loop Experience
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2016, 05:45:20 PM »
Thanks El Hombre!

Those sound really good.  After I posted my question I spent some time on their website and got a good idea of how they work.  I do a bit more camping in the warmer months than the cold but for that I can do like you said and use it as a blanket and continue carrying a sheet.  My warm month camping trips are just that, "camping trips" not backpacking.  I do plan to start increasing my winter camping trips so for that I need a better, warmer sleeping bag.  Figured I might as well get one that will work for car camping and in case I work up to backpacking. 

Since I need a pad anyway, might as well look at the option of going with the blanket/pad combo.

Still asking and researching though.

 


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