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Need OML Advise

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Offline SandRaT

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Need OML Advise
« on: December 19, 2007, 06:39:18 PM »
My husband and I are about to do the OML trail in a few weeks.

Day 1: We are going to park our truck at Juniper Canyon and camp there the first night.

Day 2: Next night we will camp on the Dodson Trail as close to Homer Wilson as posssible.

Day 3: Get our water cache at HW head up Blue Creek and stay either at Blue Creek or Colima.

Day 4: Head back to JC to our truck.

We hike at a steady to almost fast pass.

Here are my questions.
1. Which camps are better and why JC #1 or JC #2?

2. If we leave Homer Wilson's by 9:30am to head up Blue Creek, would it be better to stay at one of the BC camp sites or one of the Colima camp sites?

SandRaT

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Offline elhombre

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 09:30:41 PM »
Your map may be a little old because the Park has moved the campsite that is at the end of the road right on the trail.  That area is only used for parking now.  The new campsite is called "robbers roost" and is about 10 minutes up the road from Glenn Springs road.  Robbers roost is big and open. It is very nice if the weather is good.  If the wind is blowing, I would stay at Rice tank the first night and drive up to the parking area in the morning you start your hike.  I don't know what they call the other JC campsite that is a short distance from the trail head, but it is small and does not have much of a view.  You do get to see the South rim really well but nothing else really.  I am partial to the old JC  site that is a parking lot now because you could see the sun set on mexico and also have a great view of the South rim.

There are a few nice campsites at the base of the big climb on  Blue meadow.  They are right beside the trail at the base of the hill.  My preference was to camp down at the bottom of the hill and drink all the water I want that I brought up from Homer Wilson that day.  Then, in the morning you only have to climb the big hill with enough water to get you back to your car that afternoon.
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Offline toejam

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 12:35:21 AM »
2. If we leave Homer Wilson's by 9:30am to head up Blue Creek, would it be better to stay at one of the BC camp sites or one of the Colima camp sites?

SandRaT
It would be better to stay at SE4. There is no view at any of the BC or Colima camp sites.

That's the thing I don't get about people who hike the outer mountain loop - they are in such a hurry to complete the loop they don't stop to enjoy one of the best views in the continental U.S. - the South Rim!

I need to do the OML someday, but I'll prolly camp at SE4 the first night, Fresno Creek the next, SE4 the next night, and back to the basin.

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Offline toejam

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 12:39:23 AM »
Oh, and the campsite closest to the end of the road to Juniper Canyon is Twisted Shoe.

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Offline SandRaT

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 10:07:12 AM »
Well, we are not in a hurry and we do stop to enjoy everything along the way. I was just trying to say we are not slow.  :icon_biggrin:

We just backpacked the South Rim at T-Giving for the 3rd time and enjoyed every minute of it.

We will be staying at Blue Creek or Colima. I was a little concerned about what time we would be getting to camp by leaving HW about 9:30 with it getting dark so early at this time of year. Since we have to get the camp pass in advance, I thought I would see what anyone thought about the 2 areas.

SandRaT


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Offline jeffblaylock

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 10:37:09 AM »
The Colima sites are set back under the scrub oaks on the shoulder of Emory Peak. There are no views to speak of, and the Rim is a mile or more away depending on which site.

The Blue Creek sites are tiny, tiny spots nestled in the junipers. Good views down the canyon and off to the west are available nearby.

Colima is closer to a water source, but you should be in good shape water-wise since you would have just come from the Homer Wilson ranch site and thus a cache of water. Blue Creek is lower in elevation than Colima and closer to the Basin trailhead.
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Offline toejam

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 11:28:30 AM »
I was thinking BC was Boot Canyon. I don't think I've seen the Blue Creek sites. Where's my topo map?

You'll be near the famous SW3 site - That would be worth getting if available.

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Offline elhombre

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Re: Need OML Advise
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 07:47:48 PM »
There are not many choices for campsites on the approach side of Homer wilson ranch.  The better of the two that I remember is right above the creek when you get finally climb out at the smokey creek intersection.  It is before the corral marked on the map and you won't miss it.  The second spot is closer to the ranch.  It is almost all the way down the hill before you start walking due west in the creek.  It is a flat spot on brown dirt around the 4400 foot elevation line.  It is exposed more than the first spot described.

I agree that there is not much of a view down in Blue Creek but it is one of the more diverse areas to see birds and animals.  There are big holes or caves in the red rock to the north of the creek to explore right above the campsites.  Either way, you can't go wrong.  Your on vacation! :eusa_dance:
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