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Lemming_of_the_BDA

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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2006, 11:58:09 PM »
I just came across this paragraph in a 1971 version of "Hiker's Guide to the Developed Trails and Primitive Routes":
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Ward Mountain primitive trail starts along the north side of Laguna and is about two miles in length. A small rock dam is located at the end of this hike. In summer, watch for Colima Warblers among the oaks in the canyon above the dam."


Sounds like the trail as such was a hike into upper Cattail Canyon.

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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2006, 06:05:25 AM »
Good find -must have been the route along the canyon floor to the Dam, I was there a couple weeks ago and could find fragments of a trail but not enough to follow for more than 1/4 mile or so.   I also found trail fragments going up the ridge from LW1 campsite that looked like maybe they kept going all the way down the ridgeline.

Does your old hiking guide have any other primitive routes listed?

I think the route up Casa Grande must have been a regular trail at some point because the tree's have been cut away from the path perhaps back in the 1970's... TWWG

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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2006, 08:07:22 AM »
It does mention the Apache Canyon trail. Says it follows the old Burro Mesa road. I don't have the book with me. When I get home tonight, I'll post the entire passage about AC.

I don't recall it saying anything about Casa Grande.

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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2006, 08:11:26 AM »
I was looking through this guide hoping to find some info on a trail that shows up on the 1953 map. This particular trail turns west off the Laguna Meadow trail near where the Basin Loop trail turns east, then turns north to link up with the Window trail. No luck.

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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2006, 11:35:14 AM »
well so much for finding an old trail :lol:

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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2006, 12:33:44 PM »
What a great resource to have though.

If you put it up on eBay...BDANN would snap it up, I think!
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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2006, 12:46:19 PM »
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well so much for finding an old trail :lol:


Yeah, it appears "Ward Mtn Trail" is something of a misnomer.



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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2006, 01:47:51 PM »
Check out this post: http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/index.php?topic=1109.0

Here's a full size scan of the 1953 map: http://www.bdann.net/images/img182.jpg

It shows the Ward Mtn Trail starting right next to the word "Laguna".

Compare it with a current Chisos trails map and you'll see other changes.
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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2006, 02:10:12 PM »
Here's the inset:



The Ward Mtn  Trail is in blue.  I traced the trail that hooks up with the window trail in red.  There's also a trail coming up from Blue Creek that I don't think exists any longer.
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« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2006, 02:18:26 PM »
there's also a trail connecting Juniper Flat with the Lost Mine Trail.
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2006, 02:19:56 PM »
Thanks, BDann. The red trail is the one I was trying to learn more about.

The blue trail does appear to head into Blue Creek. Perhaps by the time the Hiker's Guide was published, the trail had been interrupted or re-routed.

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« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2006, 02:22:53 PM »
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there's also a trail connecting Juniper Flat with the Lost Mine Trail.


I wonder if that could be the trail TWWG was referencing? It does pass in front of Casa Grande.

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« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2006, 02:33:10 PM »
I've never seen a map showing a trail up Casa Grande, the trail, as it exists today is on the other side of the mountain from the trail shown on the '53 map.  I have heard it's possible to get to the top from Juniper Flat though.

Here's David's map of the trail from his post on hiking Casa Grande:



(though the official "unofficial" trail starts at the overlook, not at marker 7)
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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2006, 03:05:15 PM »
Bdann, thanks for posting the old map. I noticed there was no Ross Maxwell drive yet.

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« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2006, 03:44:41 PM »
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there's also a trail connecting Juniper Flat with the Lost Mine Trail.


That looks like the Kibbey Spring trail.
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