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Pine Canyon to Lost Mine?

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Offline Sanjuro82

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Pine Canyon to Lost Mine?
« on: December 16, 2006, 11:14:43 PM »
Anyone here done this hike?  Starting at the Pine Canyon trail, up to the pouroff, and then hiking up to the Lost Mine trail.

If you have experience on this trail, then please post any info, thoughts, or opinions that you might have!


i.e.: how long did it take you, is it a worth while hike, how strenuous is it etc.....

Thanks so much!  8)

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Offline dryer

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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2006, 06:57:50 AM »
How are you getting to the top of the pouroff?   Been there many times and have never seen a trail go all the way up and over, nor a trail to connect to Lost Mine.  The topo map looks like there could  be a connection but I've never found it.
KD5IVP, Texas

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That is...
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2006, 08:18:14 AM »
my personal favorite route back into the high Chisos.  

Sanjuro, you can go left of the pour-off and there is a route.  For several groups I have taken up there I have had to provide a hand-line (usually a 50' piece of webbing) to help people get up, especially carrying packs.  

Once you are above the pour-off you follow the drainage a short way before going cross-country up to the ridge to catch the Lost Mine Trail.
Funny... I have a story about that...

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Pine Canyon to Lost Mine?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2006, 09:32:24 AM »
okiehiker,

Thanks for the tidbit!  Much appreciated.  For this particular hike it'll be me, my Brother, my sister and her husband.

Me and my bro are very experienced hikers, particularly in Big Bend.  We tend to stick to the more remote desert regions (the Dead Horse mountains in the eastern portion of the park).    But I do love a good Chisos hike!  My brother and I will be back country camping for around 10 days at various locations throughout the park.  

My sister and her husband will also be on vacation during the same (they are staying at Prude Ranch, near the Davis Mnts).  But they will be making several trips down to Big Bend to do some hiking.  And my brother and I will be meeting up with them in the Basin (my sister loves the Basin/Chisos area) one of the days.  And they asked me to come up with an interesting hike that we could all do together (a hike that they haven't done before).  I figured that the Pine Canyon to Lost Mines would be a good choice.  I have never done this hike in the past because I didn't have access to two vehicles.

My only concern was whether or not my sister could handle the cross country hike from the pour-off to the Lost Mine trail.

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Offline Sanjuro82

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Pine Canyon to Lost Mine?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2006, 09:33:51 AM »
Oh and one last quick question...

How long on average does the trip usually take.  We are all in good shape overall, so frequent stops/breaks shouldn't be necessary.

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A little bit challenging, but fun
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2006, 05:45:37 PM »
This hike is a bit of a challenge.  It is only about 7 miles total (depending on wher you actually park) but has about 3,000' of gross elevation gain.

Plan to spend extra time at the pour-off.  It is quite dramatic, about a 200' sheer drop.  The canyon bottom hike is very open, until you exit left up a steep, but not too overgrown cross-country slope.  

Allow an hour and a half to the pour-off.  Thirty minutes to go around.  An hour to hang out above the pour-off and thirty minutes up to the ridge.  From the ridge-top it is a 3.5 miles trail hike back to Panther Pass.  With people somewhat less fit than you, allow another hour and a half.  

It is a crime to do Lost Mine and not spend an hour or so contemplating the best view in the park (IMHO.)

I would allow six to eight hours minimum for the whole trip.  One of the best medium length hikes in the park!
Funny... I have a story about that...

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Pine Canyon to Lost Mine?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2006, 06:53:51 PM »
That sounds a little too extreme for your sister and her husband.  Remember this is a Family hike and you will want to be able to talk constantly while hiking and not have anything too extreme less  YOU become the topic of conversation later.    I would recommend something a little more sedate but nonetheless interesting and unique.   Assuming you have a high-clearance vehicle you could start at Roys Peak Vista site and hike down the nearby drainage to Tornillo Creek and back (~ 5-6 miles roundtrip with 2 flowing springs + tornillo creek + overhanging cliff face on the far side of the drainage when you reach Tornillo.  A few short sections of Class I-II but otherwise easy sandy arroyo with lots of wildlife.   Drive in from the Dagger Flat Road and combine the hike with a road trip to McKinney Springs but backtrack the same way - it's a long drive out to the Rio Grande road...PM  me if you want more info... TWWG

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2006, 05:20:30 PM »
I've done it with the exception that I used it to climb Crown Mountain from the Lost Mine Trail.  It is a helluva bushwhack but can be done in about 3.5 hours.  Here is a topo of the route I used.  Your approximate route would be to head up where the 3 is (you will obviously not take the Pine Canyon route to Crown but keep going on the black dotted line) and get to the 3 saddle bushwhack right where the arrow is.  You will be on the first saddle and will have 2 more to go before you drop back into the gully above the pouroff.  There is some radio equipment near the 3rd saddle (first saddle for you).  It is very steep and will require a lot of bushwhacking.  Once you get above the pouroff, stay down in the gully until it is time to head on up to the Lost Mine Trail.  Below the topo, I have posted a pic from the second saddle to the 3rd saddle which can be seen in the far right of the photo.  The photo isn't very good because of the bad contrast but it will give you a little bit of an idea how bad the bushwhack will be.  Wear long pants!  It is also quite loose on the 3 going up and down the saddles.  There will be a lot of boulder hopping and other bushwhacking down in the gully.  More bushwhacking will be done to get up to the Lost Mine Trail from the gully also.  You will be in some of the least travelled sections of Big Bend so I do think it is worth the hassle.  




 


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