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Big Bend Tablet

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Offline dprather

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 11:23:02 PM »
The first flag is that it is a bronze age European script on a friable clay tablet. No similar script or tablet has ever been observed in the region making it an outlier,... a distant outlier. The fact that it conveniently crumbled before being professionally documented is another flag. It's location was also conveniently not recorded. All in all there is as much proof it did exist as it didn't.

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2019, 04:20:17 PM »
The first flag is that it is a bronze age European script on a friable clay tablet. No similar script or tablet has ever been observed in the region making it an outlier,... a distant outlier. The fact that it conveniently crumbled before being professionally documented is another flag. It's location was also conveniently not recorded. All in all there is as much proof it did exist as it didn't.

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If I was going to explain why I think it's 100% bs I would say this  :icon_smile:

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2019, 07:15:36 PM »
 Aliens? 

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2019, 07:11:35 AM »
I have not been a regular here for some time as it seems that the world around has been filled with doubt and criticism, which I first saw here long ago, but I had to add that in my new venture of actually going to the place regularly rather than just pining away at it here in front of a screen, I've met the most interesting long term residents of the area who did and who did not work in come capacity throughout the park documenting a myriad of creatures and features.

I've also heard of and become privy to the tablet. The rendition I was told about this artifact was that it took some kids playing near the springs, albeit in a direction I had not expected. The kids discovered the place in which the tablet was stored. In short, it is not the only artifact that has "gone dark" throughout time with regard to ancient text, aside from the modernized texts we typically accept now as good and wholesome for our country such as law and standardized religion marching towards building a wall through these areas we and prior generations held sacred when we were true stewards of the land making monetary decisions that benefitted everyone starting at the community level itself.
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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2019, 08:59:46 AM »
The first flag is that it is a bronze age European script on a friable clay tablet. No similar script or tablet has ever been observed in the region ... It's location was also conveniently not recorded.

Donald Uzzell was not the only person to see the rock crevice.  "Stray Tales of the Big Bend" describes how Uzzell returned to the site where he allegedly found the Big Bend Tablet in 1970.  He was accompanied by a group including Fort Worth writer Bernice McGee who inspected and measured the rock crevice where the tablet fragments allegedly lay for 1600 years.

Another member of the group was Miriam Lowrance of Sul Ross State University.  She led the group to a rock etching that seemed out of character with the typical petroglyphs of the area.  One symbol in the petroglyph was a double backed axe that, according to Bernice McGee, resembled a symbol of a Roman deity associated with Ahura-Mazda.  McGee included a picture of this petroglyph in her article "Mystery of the Big Bend Tablet", published in True West magazine, July/August 1972.

Ro Wauer, who was chief naturalist of Big Bend National Park at the time, was part of the 1970 expedition to the rock crevice as well.  He subsequently set up a file on the Big Bend Tablet at park headquarters.

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2019, 12:33:05 PM »
"Ye who doubt"
"Know my power"
"the skull sees all"
"every hour"
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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2019, 01:31:36 PM »
"Ye who doubt"
"Know my power"
"the skull sees all"
"every hour"
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That's probably the guy that made the Play-doh tablet

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2019, 09:56:37 PM »
I am the nephew of Don Uzzell, I have personally have known him all my life. He pasted away a few years ago at the age of 81. Before his death he gave me an interview about the Big Bend Tablets which he found in 1962.this. I have a recording of. It is very interesting ! He also gave me all the original photographs and correspondence with the Park Service and archaeologists that he had dealings with . I guarantee you this was not a hoax. My uncle had only a high school degree and was not a language expert. There were during the 1960s only a few archaeologists that could decipher these tablets. I have all their original correspondence in my hands. The writings on the tablets were a distress prayer to a god that was worshipped in the Middle East about the time of Christ. I have a complete translation of it. At these times it was quite common for people to write prayers and hide them in caves or crevices. The tablets were in a squared out hole on the side of a hill which was probably a part of a cave hundreds of years ago. My uncle gave these too the Park Service when he found them. They promptly disappeared after that. I am under the notion they are still around. I will soon join with a detective and search this out. These would be the oldest writings found in the United States and would be priceless. I am sure the Park Service as a whole never had them. They are calling these Tablets a hoax too cover their tails. Easy way out for them case closed on their part. Letís see, we have a guy with a high school education that wrote on these clay tablets an ancient dialect from the Middle East that only a few archaeologists in the U.S. could understand back in the 60s. And the Park Service calls it a hoax ! Whatís wrong with this picture ! I am going to promote these Tablets to the Park Service and the public and set things straight. There will be a web site coming soon and all the info I have will be posted and people can judge for themselves.

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2019, 12:28:23 PM »
I am the nephew of Don Uzzell, I have personally have known him all my life. He pasted away a few years ago at the age of 81. Before his death he gave me an interview about the Big Bend Tablets which he found in 1962.this. I have a recording of. It is very interesting ! He also gave me all the original photographs and correspondence with the Park Service and archaeologists that he had dealings with . I guarantee you this was not a hoax. My uncle had only a high school degree and was not a language expert. There were during the 1960s only a few archaeologists that could decipher these tablets. I have all their original correspondence in my hands. The writings on the tablets were a distress prayer to a god that was worshipped in the Middle East about the time of Christ. I have a complete translation of it. At these times it was quite common for people to write prayers and hide them in caves or crevices. The tablets were in a squared out hole on the side of a hill which was probably a part of a cave hundreds of years ago. My uncle gave these too the Park Service when he found them. They promptly disappeared after that. I am under the notion they are still around. I will soon join with a detective and search this out. These would be the oldest writings found in the United States and would be priceless. I am sure the Park Service as a whole never had them. They are calling these Tablets a hoax too cover their tails. Easy way out for them case closed on their part. Letís see, we have a guy with a high school education that wrote on these clay tablets an ancient dialect from the Middle East that only a few archaeologists in the U.S. could understand back in the 60s. And the Park Service calls it a hoax ! Whatís wrong with this picture ! I am going to promote these Tablets to the Park Service and the public and set things straight. There will be a web site coming soon and all the info I have will be posted and people can judge for themselves.

The photographs that you have, what do they depict?

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 12:49:54 PM »
I saw this topic listed under the active topics on the forum and was disappointed when I opened it up.  I thought somebody in Terlingua had invented something to compete with the iPad.

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2019, 01:12:04 PM »
I am the nephew of Don Uzzell, I have personally have known him all my life. He pasted away a few years ago at the age of 81. Before his death he gave me an interview about the Big Bend Tablets which he found in 1962.this. I have a recording of. It is very interesting ! He also gave me all the original photographs and correspondence with the Park Service and archaeologists that he had dealings with . I guarantee you this was not a hoax. My uncle had only a high school degree and was not a language expert. There were during the 1960s only a few archaeologists that could decipher these tablets. I have all their original correspondence in my hands. The writings on the tablets were a distress prayer to a god that was worshipped in the Middle East about the time of Christ. I have a complete translation of it. At these times it was quite common for people to write prayers and hide them in caves or crevices. The tablets were in a squared out hole on the side of a hill which was probably a part of a cave hundreds of years ago. My uncle gave these too the Park Service when he found them. They promptly disappeared after that. I am under the notion they are still around. I will soon join with a detective and search this out. These would be the oldest writings found in the United States and would be priceless. I am sure the Park Service as a whole never had them. They are calling these Tablets a hoax too cover their tails. Easy way out for them case closed on their part. Letís see, we have a guy with a high school education that wrote on these clay tablets an ancient dialect from the Middle East that only a few archaeologists in the U.S. could understand back in the 60s. And the Park Service calls it a hoax ! Whatís wrong with this picture ! I am going to promote these Tablets to the Park Service and the public and set things straight. There will be a web site coming soon and all the info I have will be posted and people can judge for themselves.
Welcome to the board. You sound like a man on a mission, more power to you! Hope you find what you are looking for. Please keep us informed.

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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 03:21:00 PM »
One mystery is how the tablet lasted in the cave for about 1300 years and crumbled to dust in a few years after being moved ??

Just a variation on treasure tales...

Always keep in mind the numerous elaborate legends/stories about bootfulls/burro loads/umpteen saddlebags filled with Spanish gold/silver/gems etc, and the lost gold/silver mines that (apparently) abundantly litter the west. And, these events always have the base line of sudden, inadvertent, chance discovery.

But (and here's the catch/common thread), none of the tellers of such tales (frequently sworn to be absolutely true) ever can find their way back to these marvelous riches (or in the case of the 'tablet' have purported physical remains that have 'crumbled' into dust.

Not.a.single.one.of .them.

There's always some implausible reason why a return never can be made: rockfall, the light isn't right, some grand physical alteration of the region has occurred (rockfalls are a popular excuse), or the precise minute when some event that only occurs once a year, or three, or ten that unerringly points to the spot (and, amazingly, they just happened to be right there, right then), suddenly  cannot be remembered.

In the case of the 'tablet,' how convenient there only is a photograph. Nothing physical to examine or test.

All very entertaining, but tall tales lacking even a smidgen of truth.

Even so, myths still are fun to talk about. Add in a bit of conspiracy theory and you have a keeper.
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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2019, 03:21:57 PM »
There are some legitimately interesting archeological mysteries in the Big Bend, but this isn't one. I'm 99% sure that this is 100% BS.

Ranger Tim - what makes you say that ? What part of the story is a red flag ?

100% of it is a red flag.
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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 03:25:44 PM »
The first flag is that it is a bronze age European script on a friable clay tablet. No similar script or tablet has ever been observed in the region ... It's location was also conveniently not recorded.

Uzzell returned to the site where he allegedly found the Big Bend Tablet in 1970.  He was accompanied by a group including Fort Worth writer Bernice McGee who inspected and measured the rock crevice where the tablet fragments allegedly lay for 1600 years.

Taking folks to some site and pointing out 'that was where I found it' does not a verification make.
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Re: Big Bend Tablet
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2019, 03:28:50 PM »
I guarantee you this was not a hoax. They promptly disappeared after that. I am under the notion they are still around. I will soon join with a detective and search this out.

I always am open to verifiable evidence.
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