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Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery

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Offline Meadows8903

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Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« on: October 16, 2018, 07:37:46 AM »
This was posted on the Friends of Big Bend Facebook page this morning:

For thirty-two years Iíve called Big Bend my favorite place on the planet. Itís provided the wide-open space and spectacular beauty that fills my soul with freedom. Iíve hiked all the trails except those requiring 4-wheel drive to get to. This past weekend, my husband and I rented a Jeep to do one or two of those.
We drove the rugged River Road from the West and camped at Dominguez Springs Campsite, spending the night under the Milky Way watching the lightening show to the north of us throughout the night. On Saturday morning, October 13 we carefully hiked our way up the indistinguishable route, seven miles to the spring. A true oasis in the desert; so alive with green plants, butterflies and birds. Joy and relief filled us as we returned to camp, so looking forward to the celebratory beverages left in the cooler.
Unfortunately, as we approached the campsite, our joy evaporated, replaced by shock and disbelief. Everything was gone. The tent, sleeping bags, thermarests, sheets, pillows, the metal table. The bear box was completely empty. Gone was the cooler, all our food, beverages, the 6 gallons of water, the kitchen supplies & dry goods. Even the small bag of garbage. Tossed on the ground were two books, a plant guide, my sweat pants and long-sleeve shirt. Also left behind was the water container and wooden mat we use to rise off. Our shock was tinged with relief that they had not damaged or broken into the vehicle.
With nothing to sleep on and no food, we had no choice but to leave. Yes, weíve reported the incident. The loss of the items is trivial. Yes, it could have been so much worse; more tragic, more violent. We werenít attached, held at gun point, hurt or even threatened. And, I do believe that their leaving behind the water container and the undamaged truck shows a sense of kindness and generosity.  I am grateful for that.
But I am filled with sadness. We were robbed. Robbed of our things. Robbed of our night out in the desert. But most damaging, we were robbed of the sense of freedom that the Big Bend has always provided. My happy place is now filled with the sense of vulnerability. Not from the elements, as was always the risk, but from other human beings.

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« Last Edit: October 17, 2018, 05:07:18 PM by RichardM »
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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 08:59:07 AM »
That's a story I hate to read. In 16 years I've never worried about things like this in the Bend. 
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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 09:30:21 AM »
I bet the person issuing the permit told them to lock all valuables in a vehicle out of sight when not at the site  :eusa_think:

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 09:34:20 AM »
That's a story I hate to read. In 16 years I've never worried about things like this in the Bend.

Well that is one site that has regularly been closed because of such issues.  Not for sure it was folks from across the river but probably so.  Another example of the disparities on each side of the international line.
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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 09:58:30 AM »
Theft not robbery. Big difference.

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Offline House Made of Dawn

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 10:35:08 AM »
With that much property taken, the thief or thieves would have to had transport, wouldnít they?


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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 11:16:35 AM »
With that much property taken, the thief or thieves would have to had transport, wouldnít they?

Absolutely vehicle-based. Not likely to have been from across the Rio.

Also not likely the victims did any preliminary investigation to note fresh tracks or the inadvertent leaving of perpetrator info.
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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 11:28:07 AM »
One recent trip while driving to the Mariscal Canyon Rim trail head we saw a a man on horseback, dog running alongside, they were headed south. When my friend started taking photos he headed directly away from us. At the time I though it odd that he would be 100 yards out in the desert, roughly paralleling the road. The road would have been much easier on the horse and the dog.
A couple of guys on horseback, maybe a pack horse, could haul off a campsite.
 

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 12:21:43 PM »
Yep. Iíd include horses under ďtransportĒ.  But using a couple of horses would either require an in-park base from which to surveil potential targets or a lot of opportunistic patrolling. Either of those would be pretty ballsy; easy to spot from an overflight. My money is on a vehicle.

A few years ago, I had my entire kit stolen from deep within the Lincoln National Forest by two folks riding an ATV. I was working from a small basecamp Iíd established; came back one evening and everything was just GONE. Nothing left but boot and tire tracks. All I had left was what I was carrying on me that day, which wasnít much. I was in the middle of the forest, not an established campground. I think they stumbled upon my stuff, saw an opportunity, and took it. Assholes.


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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 03:05:57 PM »
One recent trip while driving to the Mariscal Canyon Rim trail head we saw a a man on horseback, dog running alongside, they were headed south. When my friend started taking photos he headed directly away from us. At the time I though it odd that he would be 100 yards out in the desert, roughly paralleling the road. The road would have been much easier on the horse and the dog.

Particularly on a shod horse, I'll take the desert any day over riding on pavement.
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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 04:20:26 PM »
One recent trip while driving to the Mariscal Canyon Rim trail head we saw a a man on horseback, dog running alongside, they were headed south. When my friend started taking photos he headed directly away from us. At the time I though it odd that he would be 100 yards out in the desert, roughly paralleling the road. The road would have been much easier on the horse and the dog.

Particularly on a shod horse, I'll take the desert any day over riding on pavement.
I should have said we were on Talley Road.

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 04:30:42 PM »
Thatís what I figured. Talley makes some sense for cross-border raiding (even on horseback), as itís so close to the river. Dominguez Springs campsite seems a bit far inland for that sort of thing. Itíd be hard to know when it was worth the journey. On the other hand, necessity is the mother of invention....


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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 05:54:05 PM »
On our last trip to the Bend a few years ago (sigh), we hiked Ward Springs Trail.  Parked at the trail head, along with several other cars.  The following morning, "Ranger Rick" dropped by our campsite in the Basin to talk with us.  Apparently, one of the cars at the trail head had been burgled while we were on our hike and he wanted to know if we had seen anything.

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2018, 09:51:17 PM »
This was inevitable (I hate to sound so pessimistic).

The question is - what will be done now??
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Recent Backcountry Campsite Robbery
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2018, 10:56:43 PM »
This was inevitable (I hate to sound so pessimistic).

The question is - what will be done now??


Well, a crime was committed by persons and means unknown. Hopefully the crime scene was investigated and hopefully some of those unknowns became less so. If not, Iím not sure much can be done that will do any good.


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