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Title: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 08, 2019, 02:18:42 PM
Hey all,

It's been a while. I've been on the road quite a bit. I left the corporate gig almost two years ago to pursue a strong calling to help revisit the old ways. In so doing I have revisited the old places with some of the old people who are no longer with us. I am fortunate to have been welcomed by those places from the past. I am not a singer or a musician by trade, I work on electronics and servers like nobody's business, but not right now. Right now I am just working on helping my family to get outdoors again. I hope you enjoy the pics. Mute the sound if you are not happy listening to the words I put to the song itself. The next clips will include more sounds from the destinations themselves.

https://youtu.be/0zA4NH8GxZc
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: mule ears on February 08, 2019, 02:51:40 PM
Good to see you back Rey!  i have seen that you have been running around with Quicksilver and some others of the old ones.   :cool:
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: Casa Grande on February 08, 2019, 04:14:54 PM
Good to see you back Rey!  i have seen that you have been running around with Quicksilver and some others of the old ones.   :cool:
Sounds like perfect company for you Rey.

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Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: Al on February 08, 2019, 05:27:18 PM
Sounds like there may be a Rawles in the mix too.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 10, 2019, 12:28:15 PM
Hey CG! I don't quite understand what you mean, but if you mean a wildlife nut who absolutely tries to capture nature content and share it with those who enjoy smiling at nature, then sure! Plus once you actually talk to the guy, it's sorta like talking with any other "formerly angry" person. We can either find common ground or we can continue living with some type of hostility that is seemingly childish.

Good to see you back Rey!  i have seen that you have been running around with Quicksilver and some others of the old ones.   :cool:
Sounds like perfect company for you Rey.

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Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 10, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
Thanks ME! Wait'll you see the NEW stuff I captured from the area! Hanging out with the old ones has been a thrill because some of the retired folk (I guess you'd call 'em) are sharing insight that is falling on the deaf ears of our children who are failing to glean this KNOWLEDGE of the place we are so in love with! It's been a blast hanging out with a 79 year old who has started to live again.

CG, that reminds me! I lost 80 lbs recently without dieting! I didn't exercise either!!! That was a turning point for QS to listen to me about something I had to say which is that... Our health is our wealth. Whatever anyone thinks of QS should not reflect on how they think of (or treat) me... Unless... There is something they don't like about me...

Good to see you back Rey!  i have seen that you have been running around with Quicksilver and some others of the old ones.   :cool:
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 10, 2019, 12:33:01 PM
While I don't see eye to eye with ANYONE politically, I do see eye to eye with first responders, veterans, children, parents, site administrators, homeless, wildlife, peacemakers and the not so peaceful as well. That's the only way to bridge any communication. Speaking of bridges, did anyone hear my lyrics in this song? What'd you think?

Sounds like there may be a Rawles in the mix too.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 10, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
And also, that cover art for the video... Misleading, or... Does it somehow work? The image for the cover was not taken from Big Bend, that's the only one that didn't come from there... But anyway, I thought the subject material was relevant and although my focus seemed to be NOT on the Native American dancer, I still think it captures what I am trying to say somehow... It takes beauty to get us to look at the big picture. I welcome all feedback, and I DARE you to try and get my feathers ruffled :)

YOU are after all, my friends. Anyone who loves Big Bend? I would die for and I would willingly go out of my way to help build their children's fort for them, even though I have no interest in children of my own or that might somehow in the future take from my earnings. I would share ANYTHING I have with ANYONE in order to gain the continuation of the health of the place WE love.

Have a fantastic day! If I were in Big Bend I'd be a THOUSAND times happier and you might just want to mock me all the more... But then again, I will be in Big Bend again. Soon... I draw off of that...

HOPE. It is a gorgeous thing! It is the only thing that moves any of us forward :)
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: stingrey on February 10, 2019, 12:50:45 PM
Oh, I almost forgot! Casa Grande, that bat flying over the river? That was from OUR kickass outing in Big Bend! Remember when we had the chairs in the river with Sotol Vista? Man do I miss that kind of outing. More and more my counterparts are having more and more trouble getting outside again. I'm not waiting for ANYONE to go out and play anymore. I'm gonna do like my grandpa told me:

Why don't you just go play with yourself?

We always got a chuckle out of that old perv's jokes. Sometimes I forget where I got my sense of humor from. Anyway, while everyone here is busy getting mad, I brought something pretty cool to the table. Hope SOMEONE likes it genuinely rather than just talking trash like schoolyard bullies.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: Al on February 10, 2019, 06:23:41 PM
While I don't see eye to eye with ANYONE politically, I do see eye to eye with first responders, veterans, children, parents, site administrators, homeless, wildlife, peacemakers and the not so peaceful as well. That's the only way to bridge any communication. Speaking of bridges, did anyone hear my lyrics in this song? What'd you think?

Sounds like there may be a Rawles in the mix too.

You are very talented and I enjoy your photographic and animal whispering skills immensely.  Your contribution to this site is immeasurable.  I too do not select my friends by their politics or I would have far fewer and I have few enough as is.  Common interests are more than enough for me such as a love for Big Bend. 

As my mama once told me, "Do not talk politics or religion in polite company."  Regardless of the difference in our politics, I hope to see Rawles and perhaps spend an evening with him next time I am out there, which I hope will be soon.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: House Made of Dawn on February 10, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
Regardless of the difference in our politics, I hope to see Rawles and perhaps spend an evening with him next time I am out there, which I hope will be soon.

Who is this Rawles they speak of, I asked myself, and did a quick BBC search.

Holy Cow!!!!  I vividly remember that 1996 PBS Trailside episode with Rawles and John Viehman about the Dodson Trail.  I was just beginning my love affair with Big Bend and had two OML's under my belt when I watched it. I'd been backpacking for almost 20 years and had subscribed to Backpacker Magazine for almost a decade. It's a tribute to Rawles' very strong personality that I can still recall several scenes from that half-hour episode in my mind's eye and hear a good chunk of his actual words.  I envy you guys that know him and have walked beside (or is that behind, far behind..... :icon_wink:) him on both sides of the Rio Grande.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: House Made of Dawn on February 10, 2019, 09:25:42 PM
You know what I'm engaged in researching right now?  The Glenn Springs and Boquillas raids and the Second Punitive Expedition into Mexico.  I just found out about and ordered Rawles Williams' novel, Boquillas Crossing.  Can't wait to read it.  Man, it's a small world.

I now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: Al on February 11, 2019, 09:11:38 AM
It's quite a good read.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: PacingTheCage on February 11, 2019, 11:20:36 AM
You know what I'm engaged in researching right now?  The Glenn Springs and Boquillas raids and the Second Punitive Expedition into Mexico.  I just found out about and ordered Rawles Williams' novel, Boquillas Crossing.  Can't wait to read it.  Man, it's a small world.

I now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.

Are you aware of any caves near Glenn Springs? A friend of mineís grandfather participated in those raids. He claims they camped near Glenn Springs. There was a cave nearby and he and friends carved/scraped their names/date into the wall.

Friend has never been to Big Bend so heís always asking me to check it out! Iíll be out there at the end of the month. Have no clue where to look. Probably be my luck to stumble into a rattlesnake den!


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Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: House Made of Dawn on February 11, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
You know what I'm engaged in researching right now?  The Glenn Springs and Boquillas raids and the Second Punitive Expedition into Mexico.  I just found out about and ordered Rawles Williams' novel, Boquillas Crossing.  Can't wait to read it.  Man, it's a small world.

I now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.

Are you aware of any caves near Glenn Springs? A friend of mineís grandfather participated in those raids. He claims they camped near Glenn Springs. There was a cave nearby and he and friends carved/scraped their names/date into the wall.

Friend has never been to Big Bend so heís always asking me to check it out! Iíll be out there at the end of the month. Have no clue where to look. Probably be my luck to stumble into a rattlesnake den!


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PTC, I don't know anything about a cave.  Yet.

Bear in mind, I'm no expert on these things, just a very interested rank amateur. I'm really just starting to get serious about the research.  But I'd love to help you, PTC.  If I find anything useful, I'll send it your way. That's fascinating and very cool that you have a friend with connections to the raid.  Was your friend's grandfather participating with the Anglos or the Mexicans or both? 

I hate to piggyback onto this thread, which should really focus on Stingrey's excellent video. Maybe the moderator will see fit to create a new thread (or category) on Big Bend history. I know a lot of us on BBC are interested in, do research on, hike in to explore, and eventually post on the history of the area (I'm thinking of Badknees, Lance, Flash, Marufo, Mule Ears, Casa Grande and, of course, BIBEARCH above all. I'm sure I've left off a few names.)  There is so much to learn and share about the folks that lived and worked and died here before it became a national park.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: PacingTheCage on February 11, 2019, 01:53:44 PM
You know what I'm engaged in researching right now?  The Glenn Springs and Boquillas raids and the Second Punitive Expedition into Mexico.  I just found out about and ordered Rawles Williams' novel, Boquillas Crossing.  Can't wait to read it.  Man, it's a small world.

I now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming.

Are you aware of any caves near Glenn Springs? A friend of mineís grandfather participated in those raids. He claims they camped near Glenn Springs. There was a cave nearby and he and friends carved/scraped their names/date into the wall.

Friend has never been to Big Bend so heís always asking me to check it out! Iíll be out there at the end of the month. Have no clue where to look. Probably be my luck to stumble into a rattlesnake den!


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PTC, I don't know anything about a cave.  Yet.

Bear in mind, I'm no expert on these things, just a very interested rank amateur. I'm really just starting to get serious about the research.  But I'd love to help you, PTC.  If I find anything useful, I'll send it your way. That's fascinating and very cool that you have a friend with connections to the raid.  Was your friend's grandfather participating with the Anglos or the Mexicans or both? 

I hate to piggyback onto this thread, which should really focus on Stingrey's excellent video. Maybe the moderator will see fit to create a new thread (or category) on Big Bend history. I know a lot of us on BBC are interested in, do research on, hike in to explore, and eventually post on the history of the area (I'm thinking of Badknees, Lance, Flash, Marufo, Mule Ears, Casa Grande and, of course, BIBEARCH above all. I'm sure I've left off a few names.)  There is so much to learn and share about the folks that lived and worked and died here before it became a national park.

Thanks! He was with the Anglos.  Great idea about a history forum!


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Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: BIBEARCH on February 14, 2019, 03:53:52 AM
Hmmm. "Cave means different things to different people. A boulder pile you can crawl into, a crevice in a cliff, a small alcove...   "Near" Glenn Springs also has different connotations. I know of no caves near Glenn Springs but I know of some things "around" the vicinity that "might" qualify, depending...

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Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: House Made of Dawn on February 14, 2019, 12:45:30 PM
Tom....you know I don't know diddly-squat about any of this.....but I'm wondering if PTC's friend's grandfather might have been either Sgt. Charles E. Smyth who survived the fight. Or one of the Privates named Dempsey and Crosken, both of whom escaped the fight at the last minute of extremity and took shelter in the hills.  Alternatively, the grandfather could be either C.D. Wood (part-owner of the wax factory at Glenn Springs) or his neighbor, Oscar de Montel, both of whom heard the initial gunfire and rushed to investigate in the middle of the night, only to be confronted by the bandits and forced to retreat to the hills where they eventually ran into Dempsey and Crosken and hunkered down until morning.  The sources I've read say all four men took refuge "up on the mesa" (?).  There might have been an alcove where they hid.

Then again, if "they camped near Glenn Springs", the grandfather could have been a member of the tardy relief column of soldiers that showed up the day after the raid, or a member of the later Second Punitive Expedition that pursued the bandits into Mexico.

PTC - it would help a great deal if you could find out your friend's grandfather's name.
Title: Re: Build your wall
Post by: PacingTheCage on February 16, 2019, 08:38:55 AM
Tom....you know I don't know diddly-squat about any of this.....but I'm wondering if PTC's friend's grandfather might have been either Sgt. Charles E. Smyth who survived the fight. Or one of the Privates named Dempsey and Crosken, both of whom escaped the fight at the last minute of extremity and took shelter in the hills.  Alternatively, the grandfather could be either C.D. Wood (part-owner of the wax factory at Glenn Springs) or his neighbor, Oscar de Montel, both of whom heard the initial gunfire and rushed to investigate in the middle of the night, only to be confronted by the bandits and forced to retreat to the hills where they eventually ran into Dempsey and Crosken and hunkered down until morning.  The sources I've read say all four men took refuge "up on the mesa" (?).  There might have been an alcove where they hid.

Then again, if "they camped near Glenn Springs", the grandfather could have been a member of the tardy relief column of soldiers that showed up the day after the raid, or a member of the later Second Punitive Expedition that pursued the bandits into Mexico.

PTC - it would help a great deal if you could find out your friend's grandfather's name.

Working on it! 


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