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Warning Signs

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Offline Imre

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Warning Signs
« on: June 01, 2018, 08:31:08 AM »
It rained about 1.5 inches in the Chisos while I was in the park. Apparently that's nearly the entire rainfall for the year so far. It was 109F in the shade at RGV when I photographed the warning sign at the trail to hot springs. The manager at the lodge told me that earlier in the month the park service conducted four search and rescues on that trail.
Be well and above all be safe.
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« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 03:35:02 PM by Imre »
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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 09:01:58 AM »
Thanks for sharing.  One thing I always do prior to going to BB is condition myself. I will go to my local park and walk an hour in the "heat of the day" for two weeks prior to the trip.

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 09:05:04 AM »
The manager at the lodge told me that earlier in the month the park service conducted four search and recoveries on that trail.
I can believe that. The Hot Springs Canyon Trail was the hottest November hike I've ever done. Air temp was "only" 80 or so, but it felt like 100. Can't imagine it'd be much fun in these temps.

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 09:11:00 AM »
The Hot Spring Trail, from the Daniel Ranch end, can sure feel like a reflector oven. I have always turned around after reaching the overlook (~1/2 mile).

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 09:44:00 AM »
The Hot Spring Trail, from the Daniel Ranch end, can sure feel like a reflector oven. I have always turned around after reaching the overlook (~1/2 mile).

Agreed! I've done it once, no need to do it again. So many dayhikers think of it as a hike they can just knock off quickly as a little "extra" during their visit. Partly that's the fault of the NPS for failing to contextualize it properly. Glad to see they're correcting that.
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Offline badknees

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2018, 02:49:54 PM »
Yeah, I've done that hike in the heat of the day before and the exposed limestone in the first uphill section is HOT! Think about what the Marufo Vega is like right now?
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Offline catz

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 03:11:22 PM »

Yeah....and the Dodson!
Wake me when it's time to go.

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2019, 07:01:52 PM »
Posted at the junction of the glenn springs road and black gap road. Not there one year ago at this time.
Imre
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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 07:04:02 PM »
Posted at the lost mine trail. Note the admonition to return by noon. Judging by the cars in the parking lot, widely ignored.
Imre
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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2019, 08:38:45 PM »
Question of curiosity:

There are more visitors to the Bend, most of them suburbanites, and most of them unaccustomed to the unique characteristics of the Bend.

I wonder if there are any corelational studies that have attempted to identify risk factors for desert emergencies? 

Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Offline Flash

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2019, 09:37:24 PM »
Posted at the lost mine trail. Note the admonition to return by noon. Judging by the cars in the parking lot, widely ignored.
Imre
A pretty much identical sign has been at the top of the Window Pouroff Trail the last three times I hiked parts of it, all within the last year.

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2019, 10:36:41 PM »
I guess they close Death Valley NP for the summer too?

Funny, we can get in trouble for traveling on a designated park road.  But if you're an illegal on the same road,  then you get the exact opposite of in trouble.   :great:

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No crime. No evidence, just more secret investigations

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Offline Jalco

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 07:33:21 AM »
Funny, we can get in trouble for traveling on a designated park road.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but my take on the sign was that it was a warning against traveling off-road.  An alternative take would be no off-road vehicles (ie, 4-wheelers) allowed.  It really is not very clear.

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Offline House Made of Dawn

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2019, 07:41:28 AM »
Yes, I think it means vehicular travel off roads prohibited. Probably a reaction to the craziness that occurred during the shutdown, though I think the off-road hijinks were mostly in the northern parts of the park.


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Offline Flash

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Re: Warning Signs
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2019, 07:46:14 AM »
Either interpretation is true, but it is unclear. How about: Stay on the road. All motor vehicles must be street legal.

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