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Weighing gear

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Offline roadtrip

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Re: Weighing gear
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2019, 07:02:12 PM »
Duly noted! Thanks for the feedback. Saw t.p. all up and down the last stretch of Brazos I floated earlier this spring. Disgusting. Plenty of loose sand to dig there and leaves and sand to fill back up. Not so much Big Bend I reckon. I will bring the trowel. Never understood how some of the same people who enjoy the outdoors have no problem trashing it out. Rest assured I will do the right thing.

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Offline DeserTrek

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Re: Weighing gear
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2019, 11:33:34 AM »
In regards to rain gear, I always carry a rain jacket just not rain pants.  I have no issues rocking my base layers as pants. Been there done that. That said, I recommend that you get lighter pants that don't absorb and hold water. I switched from Prana Zion pants to RailRaiders Eco Mesh and the drying time was pretty significant. Also, The side zips allow more air flow for quicker drying as well.

https://www.railriders.com/men-eco-mesh-pant-with-insect-shield-p-837.html

I was skeptical of inflatable sleeping pads as well, but I have to say all three of my Thermarest pads have been bombproof. I even cut two of them to reduce weight and resealed with an iron. Leaks are not really a concern as long as you use appropriate care. That said, I use a thin GG foam pad underneath all my pads, as well as Tyvek. Also, stay away from Polycryo its crap.

https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/sleeping-pads/products/thinlight-foam-pad

Do yourself a favor and buy some biodegradable toilet paper or just use natural resources.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JFTDPE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Offline Lissa

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Re: Weighing gear
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2019, 08:55:18 PM »
So have in fact gotten caught in that cold, wet rain in the bend. Like you it seems to follow me around :) Am Not opposed to rain layers if they are I tended as part of your warmth layering, you just seemed to have a lot.  And throw a couple newspaper bags in your pack - they can cover your hands and make them waterproof in a cold rain, or over dry socks in camp if you have wet shoes. (I realize these maybe arenít highly likely in the Bend, but itís effective and very light weight, so I generally tuck them down into a pocket.)

For lightweight trowel the deuce of spaces is good.  The aluminum is thin and can kind of cut into your hand, so I use it as the place to wrap / store my spare duct tape.

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Offline dprather

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Re: Weighing gear
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2019, 10:53:44 PM »
Screw the scale thing.  Put up your inventory list of ALL you plan to carry, and most of vultures can critique you with what you NEED, and what you should consider a LUXURY item.  Every item in backpacking needs to go through the litmus test of need, or simply taking said item to make the trip easier.  That way you can make the decision if you really want to carry it or not.    But be fore warned, there are many hyper sensitive  nerds out there who internalize the weight they carry when backpacking as if it is a reflection on their inner-self worth in this world we live in.  They will look down their noses at others who don't care about an extra # or two as if they some how are better because others are too stupid and carry heavy.  A 3 oz. difference in weight of a stove makes or breaks their backpacking experience.  I buy lighter stuff, (for more money), but I don't search out the lightest stuff just for the sake of it being the lightest.

Your best weight savings in the desert will ultimately come down to water management.

It really is about suffering.  Does the benefit of the suffering out-weigh the effort.    For me, I experience a geometric proportional increase in enjoyment when compared to the suffering.  And I will continue backpacking as long as that condition persists.

This is my approach.  I only take what I have to take and then I just deal with it.  "What I have to take" gets less and less after every trip. 
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

 


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