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Boquillas Spring Break Question

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Offline dprather

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Boquillas Spring Break Question
« on: February 28, 2019, 09:50:24 PM »
I have seen the horror (THE HORROR!) of the spring-break crowds, but I never taken a look at what those crowds do to Boquillas.  Does the Austinites-in-khaki-shorts crowd also go over in mass to make a mess out of Boquillas?


By the way, here is my hard-core, last-ditch, for-sure, do-or-die plan to get my son on the OML during the week of March 10+:

(1)  I'll leave East  Texas after worship services on Wednesday night the 6th and drive through the night.  I plan on acting like pitiful Snoopy Thursday AM in hopes they'll maybe, possibly, kindly permit me for Saturday.

(2)  I'll "camp" at PJ until they permit me for Saturday-Sunday-Monday-Tuesday & Wednesday nights.

(3)  After I get the permits (I assume that my Snoopy ploy will not work and I'll have to wait until early Friday AM) I'll drive back to Ray's Drive In in San Antonio to pick him up (he lives/works in Houston and will not be able to leave until 2:00-3:00 on Friday (what we do for our kids).  We'll spend the night in Uvalde.

[HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Ray's Drive In on the West Side of San Antonio is THE BOMB for puffy tacos - easy on and easy off if you are going the HWY 90 route from SA]

(4)  Getting up early on Saturday, we'll take in Seminole Canyon (I really want him to see that), and stop at French Grocers in Marathon for sandwiches.   That night we'll camp at the first available Dodson site. After that we'll do an extended OML that includes both the Rim and the Basin.

He's 35, fit and well-conditioned (but not conditioned for competition), but I've told him that he'd better find his inner warrior because we'll do about 35 miles.

BTW - REI has Big Agnes system Lost Rangers (their down mid-model) for a pretty good price.

Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 11:22:28 PM »
Good luck, Don. We’ll all be rooting for you and your son!


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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2019, 06:32:40 AM »
As you know because they won't issue permits more than 24 hours in advance why don't you just "reserve" some obscure backcountry road site or even a zone and then your OML intinerary and just don't use the first night but your OML nights will be guaranteed.
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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2019, 07:28:41 AM »
We went to Boquillas last spring break.  A steady stream of people crossing.  Getting back in to the US was probably at least half an hour.

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 07:50:04 AM »
I have seen the horror (THE HORROR!) of the spring-break crowds, but I never taken a look at what those crowds do to Boquillas.  Does the Austinites-in-khaki-shorts crowd also go over in mass to make a mess out of Boquillas?


By the way, here is my hard-core, last-ditch, for-sure, do-or-die plan to get my son on the OML during the week of March 10+:

(1)  I'll leave East  Texas after worship services on Wednesday night the 6th and drive through the night.  I plan on acting like pitiful Snoopy Thursday AM in hopes they'll maybe, possibly, kindly permit me for Saturday.

(2)  I'll "camp" at PJ until they permit me for Saturday-Sunday-Monday-Tuesday & Wednesday nights.

(3)  After I get the permits (I assume that my Snoopy ploy will not work and I'll have to wait until early Friday AM) I'll drive back to Ray's Drive In in San Antonio to pick him up (he lives/works in Houston and will not be able to leave until 2:00-3:00 on Friday (what we do for our kids).  We'll spend the night in Uvalde.

[HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Ray's Drive In on the West Side of San Antonio is THE BOMB for puffy tacos - easy on and easy off if you are going the HWY 90 route from SA]

(4)  Getting up early on Saturday, we'll take in Seminole Canyon (I really want him to see that), and stop at French Grocers in Marathon for sandwiches.   That night we'll camp at the first available Dodson site. After that we'll do an extended OML that includes both the Rim and the Basin.

He's 35, fit and well-conditioned (but not conditioned for competition), but I've told him that he'd better find his inner warrior because we'll do about 35 miles.

BTW - REI has Big Agnes system Lost Rangers (their down mid-model) for a pretty good price.


I must admit to being tired of the anti Austin bias in your posts
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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2019, 08:14:10 AM »
Does the Austinites-in-khaki-shorts crowd also go over in mass to make a mess out of Boquillas?

I must admit to being tired of the anti Austin bias in your posts
I grew up in Austin, but I get what he's saying. Austin has grown quite a bit since I left in the late 80's and a lot of the influx has changed things for the worse.

Don, that's a lot of driving! I agree with Mule Ears' suggestion on getting an obscure roadside site for the first night.

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2019, 08:31:57 AM »
Does the Austinites-in-khaki-shorts crowd also go over in mass to make a mess out of Boquillas?

I must admit to being tired of the anti Austin bias in your posts
I grew up in Austin, but I get what he's saying. Austin has grown quite a bit since I left in the late 80's and a lot of the influx has changed things for the worse.

Don, that's a lot of driving! I agree with Mule Ears' suggestion on getting an obscure roadside site for the first night.
I get it to.  Still there are jerks of all kinds everywhere. To single out Austin vs Houston, San Antonio,or Liberty makes no sense,

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2019, 09:20:06 AM »
Jim2 and others.

I apologize.  My poor attempt at humor was clearly misguided and certainly not intended to touch the nerve that it obviously has.

To explain and not to defend, I lived in Dripping Springs from '77 to to '86.  That was a period of awesome change in the Austin area and in Dripping.  In my opinion, Austin changed from livable and lovable to just another great big city.  Owing to the spread of Austin during that time, Dripping changed from a tiny country area, and a place where I was given keys to many pastures so I could hunt and fish, to an extension of Austin's urban sprawl and to a place where city realities replaced country charm.  That image is, for me, a metaphor for all of the urban sprawling that rubs against my grain.

Again, apologies.



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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2019, 09:22:39 AM »
As you know because they won't issue permits more than 24 hours in advance why don't you just "reserve" some obscure backcountry road site or even a zone and then your OML intinerary and just don't use the first night but your OML nights will be guaranteed.

This is beneath my ethics and I would never do anything like...say, this is a great idea!
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2019, 09:25:25 AM »
Jim2 and others.

I apologize.  My poor attempt at humor was clearly misguided and certainly not intended to touch the nerve that it obviously has.
Can we still make fun of hipsters?  :evil:

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2019, 09:28:39 AM »
We went to Boquillas last spring break.  A steady stream of people crossing.  Getting back in to the US was probably at least half an hour.

Thanks for the intel.
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2019, 09:34:14 AM »
Jim2 and others.

I apologize.  My poor attempt at humor was clearly misguided and certainly not intended to touch the nerve that it obviously has.
Can we still make fun of hipsters?  :evil:

I'll tell you what...let's make fun of East Texas Rednecks!  They/we make themselves easy targets.
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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2019, 12:12:20 PM »
Jim2 and others.

I apologize.  My poor attempt at humor was clearly misguided and certainly not intended to touch the nerve that it obviously has.

To explain and not to defend, I lived in Dripping Springs from '77 to to '86.  That was a period of awesome change in the Austin area and in Dripping.  In my opinion, Austin changed from livable and lovable to just another great big city.  Owing to the spread of Austin during that time, Dripping changed from a tiny country area, and a place where I was given keys to many pastures so I could hunt and fish, to an extension of Austin's urban sprawl and to a place where city realities replaced country charm.  That image is, for me, a metaphor for all of the urban sprawling that rubs against my grain.

Again, apologies.

Yet again, you show what a good man you are, Dprather. Happy to (sort of) know you.


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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2019, 02:12:51 PM »
Born, raised, and worked in Austin for over 50 years.  Austin sucks the same way cities like New York city suck.  Traffic. $2400 rents. Taxes.  The new population of Soy-Boys who call the fire department on their neighbors because they think someone firing up the grill smells of a chemical spill or fire.  And also call the cops  when they see someone cleaning a deer in the front yard.

Remember when you use to talk to your neighbor and not get offended at crap they said?

Remember when you couldn't build a building taller than the Capitol, and there were registered "lines of site" that a new building couldn't obscure so the rest of the city could see the Capitol?  How about when parking spaces were made for pick-up trucks, and not a Prius?   Now downtown looks the same as every intersection along the hyway, with a Starbucks, Walmart, CVS, and Home Depot.   :vomit:  Austin and most of it's people have become nothing less than monochromatic in appearance and nature.
 
Here is to the times of Auqafest with Czech night, Mexican Night, and Western Night. Also cheap beer and music at Liberty Lunch. And hippie stoners who worked all day, and partied well into the night.

Dang, now I'm feeling like I need to go to the store and buy a 6 pack of Lone Star Tallboys and Jam out to some Steve Ray Vaughan and Joe Ely!  Thanks   :great:
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First Russian Collusion, then Obstruction, then illegal payment to Stormy Daniels, then tax returns subpoenaed. Now no formal vote on impeachment for a 30 min. phone call to Ukraine

No crime. No evidence, just more secret investigations

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Re: Boquillas Spring Break Question
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2019, 02:51:24 PM »
Born, raised, and worked in Austin for over 50 years.  Austin sucks the same way cities like New York city suck.  Traffic. $2400 rents. Taxes.  The new population of Soy-Boys who call the fire department on their neighbors because they think someone firing up the grill smells of a chemical spill or fire.  And also call the cops  when they see someone cleaning a deer in the front yard.

Remember when you use to talk to your neighbor and not get offended at crap they said?

Remember when you couldn't build a building taller than the Capitol, and there were registered "lines of site" that a new building couldn't obscure so the rest of the city could see the Capitol?  How about when parking spaces were made for pick-up trucks, and not a Prius?   Now downtown looks the same as every intersection along the hyway, with a Starbucks, Walmart, CVS, and Home Depot.   :vomit:  Austin and most of it's people have become nothing less than monochromatic in appearance and nature.
 
Here is to the times of Auqafest with Czech night, Mexican Night, and Western Night. Also cheap beer and music at Liberty Lunch. And hippie stoners who worked all day, and partied well into the night.

Dang, now I'm feeling like I need to go to the store and buy a 6 pack of Lone Star Tallboys and Jam out to some Steve Ray Vaughan and Joe Ely!  Thanks   :great:
For once I agree with everything you said.   :banghead:
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