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Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors

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Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors
« on: December 22, 2018, 11:05:24 PM »
A rare opportunity has suddenly opened up to allow me to go to the Bend next week after the fam leaves Xmas noon.

I have in mind a three day/two night "horseshoe loop":

  • Begin at Mule Ears parking, head east all the way to Smoky Springs.

    From Smoky Springs cross Jack's Pass and head up Fisk Canyon.

    After intercepting the OML, head west to Homer Wilson parking and the end of my trip.

Questions/Assumptions:

  • What map covers this route?

    Does my itinerary seems reasonable?

    Is my assumption correct that water at Smoky Spring and in Fisk Canyon will see me through?
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2018, 06:34:05 AM »
The Emory Peak quad covers almost all of it.  The Cerro Castolon quad has the Mule Ears part but you could easily just follow the Mule Ears trail out to the Smoky Creek drainage and head east over to Smoky Spring and then you would be on the Emory Peak quad.

When you say go up Fisk canyon to the OML do you intend to follow it up to Smoky Creek trail and then up to the Dodson or go north of Dominguez mountain and then cross country to the Elephant Tusk trail and then up to the Dodson?  Two different animals for sure.

You should have water at Smoky Spring, Dominguez Spring, several places up Fisk.  If you go over to Smoky Creek trail there will be water at Witch Spring and probably Taza.  If you go the other way there will be water at Double Springs and then in the Fresno drainage as you drop down into it.  You should be able to get by with 2 liters for most of it.  The Dodson from Fresno back to the truck will be your longest waterless stretch.

Your other thread on water seems like you are asking about going in a reverse order, not including Fisk canyon and one night. Which are you thinking?
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2018, 08:01:04 AM »
Thanks - I'm considering two options; (i) Smokey Creek only, and (ii) then the Horseshoe. 

I suspect, in all reality, the Smoky Creek option is the the most reasonable; (i) starting at Homer Wilson, and (ii) finishing at Mule Ears.

This opportunity has just come open.  Time is still an issue. 

Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Re: Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2018, 08:26:16 AM »
Thanks - I'm considering two options; (i) Smokey Creek only, and (ii) then the Horseshoe. 

I suspect, in all reality, the Smoky Creek option is the the most reasonable; (i) starting at Homer Wilson, and (ii) finishing at Mule Ears.

This opportunity has just come open.  Time is still an issue.

You could do Mule Ears - Smoky Spring - Jacks Pass - Dominguez Spring -Fisk Canyon - Smoky Creek - Mule Ears. It's just under 30 miles and can be done in an easy 3 1/2 days.
You also end up back at your ride - no hitching or shuttling required.


Here's a link

https://mirrormagic.com/2008/11/27/big-bend-fall-2008-day-1/
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Re: Help needed from seasoned Quemadas warriors
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2018, 08:39:22 AM »
I would say your route is a nice 2 nighter.  The toughest part is your first day on a counter clockwise route.  You have to decide where you want to stop the first night.  Pushing through to Dominquez over Jacks's pass is a FULL day.  But you have water at the end of the day.  If you pull up and stay in the creek bed past Smokey Spring before Jack's Pass, It leaves the second day really long.  I agree with ME that water is a sure thing in Fisk at Dog Spring and then later at Witch Spring. 

Walking all the way around via Double Spring and up ET trail is too much for a 2 nigher in my opinion.  Just seems like WORK to me.

The Clockwise route is much more palatable in my experience.  You  start out early, and can make it to Dog Spring or Dominquez "relatively" easy.  Full day for sure. but doable.  Water up at Witch half way, and Dominquez for the night.  Second night can have you sleeping on the overlook  campsite just above the climb out of Smokey Creek basin on the Mule Ears trail.    You either bring water with you from Smokey Spring, or you drop your pack a the top of the climb, and walk over to Mule Ears spring for some water for the night.  It took us about 20 minutes to walk from that campsite over to ME springs. 

Nice to read that trip report again Badknees!
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