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Re: Jose Galindo
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2015, 10:23:05 AM »
Despite some of the harsh comments, and opinions here, (and I am not the voice of Big Bend, nor do I have the authority to represent the park or the opinions of its officers)

I believe the primary role of the park ranger is life safety.

Perhaps there s a lack of understanding of the members of this forum, or the public in general as to what it is we do as Rangers.

By and large, park rangers are the most educated, and most highly trained officers (that I am aware of)

For starters, we are trained federal law enforcement officers

All of us are EMT basic or higher in certification.

All of us are required to maintain certifications in wild land fire, and structural fire, as well as search and rescue.

From there we can specialize is things like high angle rescue, horsemanship, boat operations etc...

It takes years to achieve the most basic levels of what a park ranger is responsible for knowing.

we must maintain proficiency in all of these disciplines.

Add in factors like drug trafficking, and this job becomes even more difficult and diverse.

in the rare instance where a ranger writes a ticket that is unfair, unwarranted, or unjust, it is taken care of. We are not unreasonable ham fisted government agents. We are people who chose this lifestyle because it is awesome. We move away from our families and friends to take on a job that is challenging and rewarding. I love my job.

If a ranger asks you to sit down and keep your hands out of your pockets, it is because he doesn't know you, or what your intentions are, and he wants to go home safely at the end of his shift. People have different comfort levels when dealing with the public, and decisions on how to interact with the public will vary from ranger to ranger. Of course you know that you are a good person with noble intentions, but we don't know that.

Try to give some latitude to the human error that is made by a park ranger because we are the ones who are putting you back together when you are injured, finding your lost family members when it is freezing outside, and making this park a safer place for you to enjoy.

If you have further questions or concerns, please direct them to my email.

Thank you.

Thanks for the professionalism in responding to the specific event.  I think that is a rare thing within the BIBE law enforcement.

I know law officers put their lives in danger to protect the public everyday. I have family and friends in law enforcement and even in the Big Bend Region. I know BIBE, in particular, is tasked with heavier than usual burdens of most parks.  My respect for law enforcement is great. 

I don't expect you to address a specific officer on your staff who may or may not be abusing his authority, but I do expect you, as the lead law enforcement officer in the park, to make law abiding citizens who are enjoying what they perceive to be THE destination for the outdoors feel safe from not only the real bad guys, but from law enforcement as well.  Speaking for myself, I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from you guys any longer.

I believe the negative perception towards law enforcement in the park has increased in the last ten years.  Some has to do with legitimate harassing situations, such as one involving my own brother and a certain named Ranger of yours, and sometimes from one sided stories we hear on the net, namely this forum.   

As Presidio has said, I feel an official presence on this site from a BIBE PR official would be most welcome and would benefit relations between ALL of the BIBE staff and park goers.  When I go to the park, I feel like a targeted, unwelcomed patron and I got married in the park 8 years ago with a bunch of Park officials I considered my friends!  I went to BBQs in their backyard behind Panther Junction. Now, I have to go incognito because of the sneering I get from them. ( like the "oh, it's you" eye roll ) How do I know a certain ranger won't be dispatched to my campsite trying to find a violation? And why?  Because I made an informational website dedicated to providing information about the park for people to enjoy like I do. This may be a false threat and I may be overly paranoid, but there is a reason I feel that way, and it sucks!

Whether or not BIBE wants to admit it, the park is not theirs, it is the People's.  Whether or not  BIBE wants to admit it, the internet is a free and open avenue of information and misinformation the world had never seen before and it is here to stay.  The purpose of this forum is to provide current and accurate information about the Big Bend Region with an emphasis on the National Park. Having a presence on an open forum such as this from official park staff is necessary for it to maintain that purpose.

A previous NPS employee understood this.  But ever since he left, there hasn't been anyone, other than BIBEARCH, to offer clarifications on anything that is posted here.  Anyone can post anything about anyone or anything within the park, and the park will typically not respond.

Again, I thank you for responding, but do not dismiss the musings on this board about the alleged abuse of authority from your officers.

I don't expect a response from you, nor do I require one. Just food for thought.

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Re: Jose Galindo
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2015, 11:49:45 AM »
Despite some of the harsh comments, and opinions here, (and I am not the voice of Big Bend, nor do I have the authority to represent the park or the opinions of its officers)

I believe the primary role of the park ranger is life safety.

Perhaps there s a lack of understanding of the members of this forum, or the public in general as to what it is we do as Rangers.

By and large, park rangers are the most educated, and most highly trained officers (that I am aware of)

For starters, we are trained federal law enforcement officers

All of us are EMT basic or higher in certification.

All of us are required to maintain certifications in wild land fire, and structural fire, as well as search and rescue.

From there we can specialize is things like high angle rescue, horsemanship, boat operations etc...

It takes years to achieve the most basic levels of what a park ranger is responsible for knowing.

we must maintain proficiency in all of these disciplines.

Add in factors like drug trafficking, and this job becomes even more difficult and diverse.

in the rare instance where a ranger writes a ticket that is unfair, unwarranted, or unjust, it is taken care of. We are not unreasonable ham fisted government agents. We are people who chose this lifestyle because it is awesome. We move away from our families and friends to take on a job that is challenging and rewarding. I love my job.

If a ranger asks you to sit down and keep your hands out of your pockets, it is because he doesn't know you, or what your intentions are, and he wants to go home safely at the end of his shift. People have different comfort levels when dealing with the public, and decisions on how to interact with the public will vary from ranger to ranger. Of course you know that you are a good person with noble intentions, but we don't know that.

Try to give some latitude to the human error that is made by a park ranger because we are the ones who are putting you back together when you are injured, finding your lost family members when it is freezing outside, and making this park a safer place for you to enjoy.

If you have further questions or concerns, please direct them to my email.

Thank you.

I prefer a little transparency rather than a direct email. Others on this forum who have a vested interest may want to interpret your responses in their own way. I for one, am having a problem with the deflection....

I find it odd that you seem to condescend yet again by giving us your resumes, like we are the uniformed. Unfortunately that seems to be one of the roots to this lack of trust. Seems like a training, or lack thereof, problem.

The comments in these threads are nowhere near as harsh as an armed LE officer with overinflated ego intimidating park visitors.

Most of your other comments are understood, but no matter how much you try to convince me, you still can't justify the individual behavior that is in question. To this point, I have heard nothing but a defensive attitude, but no positive action plan that would convey the intention of improving the relationship between Park management and ardent, repeat and responsible visitors.

You ask for latitude for human error, but I sure don't see any reciprocity. Respect and latitude is a two way street.

I trust that your participation here is an attempt to improve the relationship, and I applaud you for that, however circling the wagons to justify poor behavior is just the status quo.

The only change I really see, is that we the people will speak out in a public forum and call out what we believe is inappropriate. Sunlight is the great disinfectant..... That is our right. I believe that less latitude will be the end result.

You guys need to get this right.


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