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Offline Flash

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2018, 11:44:55 AM »
Maybe Mirth got it emailed to him, since he is a host...

==> Sent from Flash's phone
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #106 on: September 07, 2018, 11:58:58 AM »
Maybe Mirth got it emailed to him, since he is a host...

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2018, 02:09:58 PM »
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If they are compiling a daily report (as it appears), they sure are doing a fine job of burying it with no discernable link.
In August the Daily Report was still posted at the visitor centers...although the one in the basin was a few days late. I can't find a link either.
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2018, 02:57:37 PM »
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If they are compiling a daily report (as it appears), they sure are doing a fine job of burying it with no discernable link.
In August the Daily Report was still posted at the visitor centers...although the one in the basin was a few days late. I can't find a link either.

The last daily report with a link was available on Oct 3, 2017. It was always available before that from the link on the weather page.

Here is the link from the "wayback machine" https://web.archive.org/web/20171004122035/https://www.nps.gov/bibe/daily_report.htm

The original link was https://www.nps.gov/bibe/daily_report.htm which currently just generates an error (not a 404). It is a CommonSpot error from a CMS that the NPS uses to generate the park specific web pages.

« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 03:07:01 PM by badknees »
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2018, 10:08:11 AM »
It's getting better all the time....

Updated - Sept up to 7.03" with more probable today!

The Climatology norm for a full year is 19.36". Currently sitting at 14.46" with more than 3 months to go.

The Climatology norm for Oct+Nov+Dec = 2.88", so with some more rain in Sept and a normal final quarter, the year might be saved. It's also good to get rain in the late summer, before the dry season sets in.

In addition Persimmon Gap got 4.75" in the past 24 hours!!

I've included plots for 4 of the monitoring stations.










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Re: Rain!
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2018, 11:50:14 AM »
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If they are compiling a daily report (as it appears), they sure are doing a fine job of burying it with no discernable link.
In August the Daily Report was still posted at the visitor centers...although the one in the basin was a few days late. I can't find a link either.

The last daily report with a link was available on Oct 3, 2017. It was always available before that from the link on the weather page.

Here is the link from the "wayback machine" https://web.archive.org/web/20171004122035/https://www.nps.gov/bibe/daily_report.htm

The original link was https://www.nps.gov/bibe/daily_report.htm which currently just generates an error (not a 404). It is a CommonSpot error from a CMS that the NPS uses to generate the park specific web pages.

It's odd that Desert Sports can post the current Daily Report on their web site, but the NPS cannot.
https://www.desertsportstx.com/daily-report/

The Daily Report is probably the single most current set of information about park conditions.  And it is probably the most useful web page for those having to travel long distances and are trying to plan their trip based upon those conditions.
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2018, 10:12:14 PM »
It's odd that Desert Sports can post the current Daily Report on their web site, but the NPS cannot.
https://www.desertsportstx.com/daily-report/

Is it too much to inquire of Desert Sports how they access the report?
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2018, 11:11:31 PM »
It's odd that Desert Sports can post the current Daily Report on their web site, but the NPS cannot.
https://www.desertsportstx.com/daily-report/

Is it too much to inquire of Desert Sports how they access the report?
They might be transcribing it... maybe from a photo texted from the Park? Note their's is in a different format and they report on Foster's Ranch, which the NPS does not. Curious indeed.

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2018, 11:47:49 PM »
It's odd that Desert Sports can post the current Daily Report on their web site, but the NPS cannot.
https://www.desertsportstx.com/daily-report/

Is it too much to inquire of Desert Sports how they access the report?
They might be transcribing it... maybe from a photo texted from the Park? Note their's is in a different format and they report on Foster's Ranch, which the NPS does not. Curious indeed.

Two different reports. I don’t think Desert Sports is getting anything from NPS. They are generating their own report.
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2018, 06:12:12 AM »
The Climatology norm for a full year is 19.36". Currently sitting at 14.46" with more than 3 months to go.

The Climatology norm for Oct+Nov+Dec = 2.88", so with some more rain in Sept and a normal final quarter, the year might be saved. It's also good to get rain in the late summer, before the dry season sets in.


So the climatology data that I have been looking at has the average total for the Basin at 17.67 a year for 1943-2106.  Hence my slight confusion.

But the 1981-2010 data set does show 19.45" the average.

I have now found the NCDC data which shows your 19.36 for 1981-2010

As Mark Twain said "There are lies, damn lies and statistics"!   :banghead:

And of course none of the data sets for PJ match what is on the Park weather web page.
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2018, 07:30:08 AM »
I camped at Black Gap WMA Friday night.  I was at site 8, about 3 miles or so in from the headquarters. I had no idea how much it had rained that night.  The weather service says Persimmon Gap got 4.38 inches. Getting out Saturday morning was something of an ordeal. The road thru the Gap was destroyed. Lots of debris on the highway between there and Stillwell Store.

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2018, 08:14:41 AM »
The Climatology norm for a full year is 19.36". Currently sitting at 14.46" with more than 3 months to go.

The Climatology norm for Oct+Nov+Dec = 2.88", so with some more rain in Sept and a normal final quarter, the year might be saved. It's also good to get rain in the late summer, before the dry season sets in.


So the climatology data that I have been looking at has the average total for the Basin at 17.67 a year for 1943-2106.  Hence my slight confusion.

But the 1981-2010 data set does show 19.45" the average.

I have now found the NCDC data which shows your 19.36 for 1981-2010

As Mark Twain said "There are lies, damn lies and statistics"!   :banghead:

And of course none of the data sets for PJ match what is on the Park weather web page.

ME,

I too have seen these discrepancies. I feel your pain! I just try to be consistent and maybe not 100% correct???? :willynilly:
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Re: Rain!
« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2018, 08:04:03 PM »
Now there's a photo on FB of the falls at Pine Canyon "falling"


Thankfully I'm here and have to work this week  :pissed:

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2018, 10:44:29 AM »
https://www.desertsportstx.com/daily-report/    Desert sports post one daily Ill fine out where the park post their Has camp host I get one sent each morning at 9:00 AM

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Re: Rain!
« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2018, 10:46:55 AM »
Here in the basin we got a nice shower early this morning and it rained off and on the last few days The waterfalls are running again Nothing like last week but running

 


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