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Title: Rain
Post by: badknees on June 25, 2016, 07:13:30 PM
Looks like the Basin got about 0.20" so far today. Keep it coming!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on June 26, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
Another 0.40" today so far in the Basin!!!👍

And it got pretty windy at Persimmon Gap!

Max = 94.1 F / Min = 67.3 F                              Max Wind = 63.7 mph @ 05:28 PM   Total rain = 0.33 inches
Maximum Daytime High = 94.1 F occurred at 04:36 PM         Maximum Sustained Wind = 44.6 mph from 1 at 05:28 PM.

0.25" at PJ with Wind gusts to 54 mph too...

Dry so far at RGV
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: ggowins on June 27, 2016, 11:30:59 AM
Nice!  Should see some great desert blooms when I'm there next week.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on June 27, 2016, 12:59:13 PM
Another 0.40" this morning.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on June 29, 2016, 02:47:48 PM
A slight wetting today in the Basin - 0.03" between 13:00-14:00......better than nothing. May have been more higher up?
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on July 06, 2016, 08:40:43 AM
0.05" for the report of the 5th. Plus an asphalt-melting high of 112 degrees F was reported at RGV!  :o
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on July 06, 2016, 07:55:15 PM
Another 112 today.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on July 08, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
Another 0.20" for the Basin this afternoon with a 40% chance tonight.....I think I might have to make another roadtrip
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on July 14, 2016, 09:15:14 PM
They got 0.14"  in the Basin this evening between 5 and 6 pm.  I am heading out there tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 09, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
Looks like the Basin is getting rain now.  68 deg F
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on August 09, 2016, 05:10:52 PM
And got 0.2" yesterday... :)

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Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 09, 2016, 08:09:36 PM
Looks pretty widespread today. RGV got more than 1"
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 19, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Another wet day yesterday.  Pretty good month so far at PJ with 2.3", above the monthly average of 1.96",  Only need 2.75" more this month to catch up to the yearly average by the end of August  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 19, 2016, 12:03:16 PM
Yes!

I was about to post, but you beat me to it ME.

Looks like parkwide rain yesterday, with the exception of Castolon.

Forecast for the next couple days looks promising....

http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?tx1715
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 20, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
Holy cow another .79" yesterday at PJ, might just catch up to normal at this rate.   :celebrate:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 20, 2016, 06:56:08 PM
I'm thinking seriously about an early September trip.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Talusman on August 22, 2016, 08:26:15 AM
I'm thinking seriously about an early September trip.

After reading everything this morning, I may have to run the South Rim this weekend! And drop by Cattail Falls, especially if it keeps raining. Good chances all this week all over West Texas.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: VivaTerlingua on August 22, 2016, 12:55:54 PM

After reading everything this morning, I may have to run the South Rim this weekend! And drop by Cattail Falls, especially if it keeps raining. Good chances all this week all over West Texas.

Cattail Falls is flowing again.  I took this yesterday.

(http://i.imgur.com/fOLc8rV.jpg)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Talusman on August 22, 2016, 01:35:52 PM

After reading everything this morning, I may have to run the South Rim this weekend! And drop by Cattail Falls, especially if it keeps raining. Good chances all this week all over West Texas.

Cattail Falls is flowing again.  I took this yesterday.


(http://i.imgur.com/fOLc8rV.jpg)

Very nice! I have a video of it when its flowing over hard enough to create wind that will blow your cap off your head. That same trip we tried to get to Bryan's falls, as I really wanted to film that flowing over. Too much water in the canyon. We could not ever talk it was so loud. One day!

Thanks for sharing the picture!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 22, 2016, 03:05:24 PM

After reading everything this morning, I may have to run the South Rim this weekend! And drop by Cattail Falls, especially if it keeps raining. Good chances all this week all over West Texas.

Cattail Falls is flowing again.  I took this yesterday.


(http://i.imgur.com/fOLc8rV.jpg)

Very nice! I have a video of it when its flowing over hard enough to create wind that will blow your cap off your head. That same trip we tried to get to Bryan's falls, as I really wanted to film that flowing over. Too much water in the canyon. We could not ever talk it was so loud. One day!

Thanks for sharing the picture!

Not only windy, when it's flowing like this, but kinda of chilly too!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Buck on August 23, 2016, 09:09:30 AM
By transcendental meditation
I go there each night.
But I return back to my bed
Long before daylight.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 23, 2016, 09:51:47 AM
Another 1.03 " in the Basin over the past 24 hrs.

PJ got 0.91"
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 24, 2016, 08:32:31 PM
Another 1.03 " in the Basin early this evening

PJ got 0.28" this evening

RGV - .03" this morning
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 25, 2016, 04:47:24 PM
Got a week left, might actually make back to average rainfall!  Hard to believe  :celebrate:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 25, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
Got a week left, might actually make back to average rainfall!  Hard to believe  :celebrate:

OK, since I am the "rainman" too, here are some Chisos Basin Rainfall facts


If my calculations are correct (no thanks to the nonexistent daily report) - The Basin should currently be at 15.79" YTD.

Average Yearly is 17.67" (Period of Record : 08/01/1943 to 06/10/2016)

Past 5 year average - 13.69" (see 2011 below which dropped the average)**

Past 10 year average - 16.59"

Past 15 year average - 17.22"

Past 20 year average - 16.92"

Average thru August - 12.60"

So................. . the Basin is 3.19" above average YTD (thru August) and only 1.88" below annual average.

A 20" year is really good, helps keep the springs flowing in the desert through the dry season. The last 20"+ year was 2008.

The greatest recorded annual was 33.68" in 1986

The least recorded annual was 4.31" in 2011 **

The most rainfall recorded in 1 month was 10.71" in August 1980
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 25, 2016, 06:15:10 PM
Awesome stats and I appreciate that rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge.

 My references are to the PJ stats which are the published average numbers, probably a longer data set and more indicative of the park as a whole.

Still amazing rainfall for a short time, wish I could get out there soon but looks like late January might be the best I can do.

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Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 25, 2016, 06:43:32 PM
Awesome stats and I appreciate that rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge.

 My references are to the PJ stats which are the published average numbers, probably a longer data set and more indicative of the park as a whole.

Still amazing rainfall for a short time, wish I could get out there soon but looks like late January might be the best I can do.

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Fall 2008(November) in the last 20" year. This was taken just inside Fisk Canyon (South end) and the 2nd picture was Smoky Creek Trail. The 3rd one is after exiting the "blackrock section" heading back to Mule Ears

(http://mirrormagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/_DSC6988.jpg)

(http://mirrormagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/_DSC6998.jpg)

(http://mirrormagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/_DSC7012.jpg)

Also 2007 was a 22.06" year...This made Spring of 2008 wet at the lower elevation Springs. There was a LOT of water at the lower elevations during all of 2008.

This was taken in Spring 2008 in Smoky Creek on the east end of the "Blackrock"section and the 2nd one not too far from the "lone tree pouroff"

(http://mirrormagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Big-Bend-Spring-2008/DSC6308.jpg)

(http://mirrormagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Big-Bend-Spring-2008/DSC6369.jpg)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 25, 2016, 08:07:49 PM
Yeah it looked like that in spring of 1992 after apparently big rain years in '90 and '91. 

I should have also clarified
Quote
rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge
in the Quemadas.

BK, I know I have asked this in the past, where do you find that rainfall and other climate data?  As a farmer I should know this. 
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 25, 2016, 08:21:33 PM
Yeah it looked like that in spring of 1992 after apparently big rain years in '90 and '91. 

I should have also clarified
Quote
rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge
in the Quemadas.

BK, I know I have asked this in the past, where do you find that rainfall and other climate data?  As a farmer I should know this.
The Chisos Basin data comes from the western regional climate center http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?tx1715

There is a corresponding link for the Southeast
http://www.sercc.com
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: RichardM on August 25, 2016, 09:24:41 PM
Sure wish I could get out there, even with my bum knee.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/august2016rain.jpg)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: TheWildWestGuy on August 25, 2016, 10:08:34 PM
I can't wait to get out there next month for a South Rim Bachelor Party Weekend.  I am not sure exactly what we will be doing for the bachelor party but I am in charge of planning it so I guess it's up to me.  Looks like we will have plenty of water resupply points in Boot Canyon and Upper Cattail so that greatly expands our opportunities.   Maybe we will go down to the dam in Upper Cattail and do some non-soaking in the pond behind the dam if it is holding water.   I have always daydreamed about taking an inflatable air mattress up to this pond and floating around while drinking margaritas in the bright sunshine perhaps this will finally be the trip.
Praying for more rain... TWWG
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 25, 2016, 10:52:48 PM
That will require a mandatory photo. No excuses!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Jalco on August 26, 2016, 08:09:49 AM
Maybe we will go down to the dam in Upper Cattail and do some non-soaking in the pond behind the dam if it is holding water.   I have always daydreamed about taking an inflatable air mattress up to this pond and floating around while drinking margaritas in the bright sunshine perhaps this will finally be the trip.
Praying for more rain... TWWG

LOL!  Thanks for the visual.  I'm picturing cowboy boots, trunks, and hat.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Imre on August 26, 2016, 09:54:11 AM
Quote
Maybe we will go down to the dam in Upper Cattail and do some non-soaking in the pond behind the dam if it is holding water.
Sorry but I am having difficulty visualizing that.  :icon_cry:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on August 26, 2016, 10:10:38 AM
Quote
Maybe we will go down to the dam in Upper Cattail and do some non-soaking in the pond behind the dam if it is holding water.
Sorry but I am having difficulty visualizing that.  :icon_cry:
Nothing a little shovel brigade couldn't handle..   :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 26, 2016, 02:05:15 PM
Yeah it looked like that in spring of 1992 after apparently big rain years in '90 and '91. 

I should have also clarified
Quote
rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge
in the Quemadas.

BK, I know I have asked this in the past, where do you find that rainfall and other climate data?  As a farmer I should know this.
The Chisos Basin data comes from the western regional climate center http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?tx1715

There is a corresponding link for the Southeast
http://www.sercc.com

Thanks BK, I have found these before but for some reason had not bookmarked them.  I think it would be interesting to compare/cross reference the PJ precip numbers and the Basin numbers to see which years really were good across the park.  From a quick look I can easily see overlaps and years when I was there that corresponded to good water down in the desert from a previous seasons rain.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 26, 2016, 06:46:51 PM
Yeah it looked like that in spring of 1992 after apparently big rain years in '90 and '91. 

I should have also clarified
Quote
rainfall in the Chisos may be a better indicator of how the springs may recharge
in the Quemadas.

BK, I know I have asked this in the past, where do you find that rainfall and other climate data?  As a farmer I should know this.
The Chisos Basin data comes from the western regional climate center http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?tx1715

There is a corresponding link for the Southeast
http://www.sercc.com

Thanks BK, I have found these before but for some reason had not bookmarked them.  I think it would be interesting to compare/cross reference the PJ precip numbers and the Basin numbers to see which years really were good across the park.  From a quick look I can easily see overlaps and years when I was there that corresponded to good water down in the desert from a previous seasons rain.

ME - here you go. It looks like in most cases what happens in the Chisos, is mirrored at PJ. There are some exceptions..like 1960 and 2006, but the trend lines track very closely.

PS.  - The Basin got another 0.14" this morning.

(http://mirrormagic.com/CasaGrande/Rainfall.jpg)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 27, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
The daily report for the Basin shows 16.04" with a 40% chance today.

The 10 year average for the final 4 months of the year is 4.63".

This should be a 20" year... :crossedfingers:

Winter and spring Quemada - here I come!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 27, 2016, 02:04:34 PM
ME - Here's an additional plot with deviation from the average in percentage...

(http://mirrormagic.com/CasaGrande/Rainfall2.jpg)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 27, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
Another 1.39" in the Basin today.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 28, 2016, 11:37:56 AM
Another .6" at PJ to bring it to 9.11" for the year, now above average, woohoo!  and the Basin with 17.59", you will get your 20" year for sure.   :kaos-cactus06:

Of course we still have that difference with the Mesowest sites totals.  Only shows 15.17" for the Basin and 8.05" for PJ.   :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 28, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
Another .6" at PJ to bring it to 9.11" for the year, now above average, woohoo!  and the Basin with 17.59", you will get your 20" year for sure.   :kaos-cactus06:

Of course we still have that difference with the Mesowest sites totals.  Only shows 15.17" for the Basin and 8.05" for PJ.   :eusa_think:
Yes, I don't know why there are differences. I looked back at Full year 2015 and MesoWest shows 15.59" and the WR Climate Center data shows 16.51"
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 29, 2016, 10:31:48 AM
Another .6" at PJ to bring it to 9.11" for the year, now above average, woohoo!  and the Basin with 17.59", you will get your 20" year for sure.   :kaos-cactus06:

Of course we still have that difference with the Mesowest sites totals.  Only shows 15.17" for the Basin and 8.05" for PJ.   :eusa_think:
Yes, I don't know why there are differences. I looked back at Full year 2015 and MesoWest shows 15.59" and the WR Climate Center data shows 16.51"

RESPONSE FROM MESO WEST

Hello Richard,

Thank you for contacting MesoWest about this discrepancy.  The data MesoWest obtains for this station originates from the Bureau of Land Management's Wildland Fire Management Information System.  We are unclear as to the source of the NPS bulletin data (or whether it is collected from the station directly for their use, since NPS is a maintainer of that site).

One potential discrepancy could arise from when the station was last visited and when the precipitation gauge was last reset.  We have seen "yearly" precipitation in some reports be related to calendar year or water year (usually Oct 1 - Sep 30), depending on how the station is used.  It is also possible that the station was visited and the precipitation gauge was reset, which could indicate that the "precipitation accumulated" value the station is reporting in MesoWest may not necessarily be equal to the total precipitation that has fallen over this calendar year.  It could also be that the NPS bulletin is totaling the precipitation data differently that how MesoWest receives it (MesoWest receives provisional data from the station in real time).

Regards


Alexander Jacques
Ph.D. Candidate - Atmospheric Sciences
Programming Support - MesoWest
University of Utah
INSCC Rm. 484
(801) 581-4362
Alexander.Jacques@utah.edu
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 29, 2016, 01:37:48 PM
Sounds like they don't know.  I think Flash maybe got an answer to this last year or so but I can't recall.   :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 30, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
The daily report now says 17.59" for the Basin YTD

This is effectively bumping the full year average.

I'm REALLY thinking about a road trip.........
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on August 30, 2016, 07:02:49 PM
Sounds like they don't know.  I think Flash maybe got an answer to this last year or so but I can't recall.   :eusa_think:
Wow, I am not recalling either.  :eusa_think:   Maybe I did!   :eusa_eh:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on August 30, 2016, 07:59:44 PM
I think it was from this thread (http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/national-park-news/the-daily-report/msg137106/#msg137106) where we discussed the differences last year but never came to a conclusion.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on September 26, 2016, 07:20:01 AM
Another 0.87"  - Basin in the past 24 hrs
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: dprather on September 26, 2016, 10:37:59 AM
Another 0.87"  - Basin in the past 24 hrs

Great news.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Homer Wilson on September 26, 2016, 11:36:08 AM
I was in the basin yesterday. I could see waterfalls pouring down the slopes before the fog rolled in and blocked out everything.

Unfortunately, the mosquitos are now borderline unbearable in the chisos. Don't know if I've ever even seen any there before.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Buck on September 27, 2016, 08:29:11 AM
I was in the basin yesterday. I could see waterfalls pouring down the slopes before the fog rolled in and blocked out everything.

Unfortunately, the mosquitos are now borderline unbearable in the chisos. Don't know if I've ever even seen any there before.

They are on their annual migration south.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on September 27, 2016, 10:11:26 AM
From today's morning report....
                                    Day    Month     YTD
Chisos Basin 5400  0.51"    4.03"       22.42"
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: RichardM on September 27, 2016, 12:50:53 PM
I wonder how much the rain will continue into October.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on September 27, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
October Historical
                         Basin         PJ         
Average           1.47        1.38
Maximum       7.49         6.88
Minimum        0.00         0.00

So.....my guess is anywhere between 0.00 and 7  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on September 27, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
October Historical
                         Basin         PJ         
Average           1.47        1.38
Maximum       7.49         6.88
Minimum        0.00         0.00

So.....my guess is anywhere between 0.00 and 7  :icon_smile:

Don't go out on a limb  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on December 03, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
Looks like some good December rain today.  So far .27" at PJ  and .51" in the Basin
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Marathon Bob on December 04, 2016, 03:46:51 PM
We are in Alpine now and have light rain about 36-40 degrees. The following came across my phone a few hours ago.
Winter Weather Advisory

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
205 PM CST SUN DEC 4 2016

...WINTRY WEATHER EXPECTED IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE DAVIS
MOUNTAINS AND BIG BEND AREA TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING...

.AN UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE SOUTH OF THE BIG BEND REGION
TONIGHT, THEN INTO CENTRAL TEXAS MONDAY. SOME OF THE RESULTING
PRECIPITATION WILL FALL AS SNOW, BUT ONLY ABOVE 6000 FEET IN THE
DAVIS, GLASS, CHINATI AND CHISOS MOUNTAINS.

TXZ074-080-081-051500-
/O.NEW.KMAF.WW.Y.0005.161205T0000Z-161205T1500Z/
DAVIS/APACHE MOUNTAINS AREA-MARFA PLATEAU-BIG BEND AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ALPINE...FORT DAVIS...MARFA...
BIG BEND NP...MARATHON
205 PM CST SUN DEC 4 2016

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM
CST MONDAY...

* TIMING...TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING.

* MAIN IMPACT...ONE TO THREE INCHES OF SNOW ABOVE 6000 FEET IN THE
  DAVIS...GLASS...CHI NATI AND CHISOS MOUNTAINS.

* OTHER IMPACTS...ROADS COULD BECOME SLUSHY DURING HEAVIER SNOW
  SHOWERS. WET SNOW ACCUMULATION COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS ON TREES AND
  POWER LINES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW WILL CAUSE
TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES.  BE PREPARED FOR SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED
VISIBILITIES, AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on December 04, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
Looks like some good December rain today.  So far .27" at PJ  and .51" in the Basin

>24" YTD - Woohoo!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on December 04, 2016, 09:10:12 PM
Looks like some good December rain today.  So far .27" at PJ  and .51" in the Basin

>24" YTD - Woohoo!

Quote
Winter Weather Advisory

Issued: 2:05 PM CST Dec. 4, 2016 National Weather Service


... Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to 9 am
CST Monday
...

* timing... tonight and Monday morning.

* Main impact... one to three inches of snow above 6000 feet in the
  Davis... glass... chinati and Chisos Mountains
.

* Other impacts... roads could become slushy during heavier snow
  showers. Wet snow accumulation could cause problems on trees and
  power lines.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of snow will cause
travel difficulties.  Be prepared for slippery roads and limited
visibilities, and use caution while driving.


 :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on December 05, 2016, 06:58:06 AM
Seems a bit warm for any accumulation of snow?
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on May 21, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
Rain gods came! Hooray!

Past 24 hrs

Basin - 2.39"
PJ - 1.79"
RGV - 0.41"
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: House Made of Dawn on May 21, 2017, 03:18:31 PM
Hallelujah! I am (hopefully) headed out there in a couple of weeks to take the recovering knee on a test drive. I say keep it raining!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on May 21, 2017, 03:58:20 PM
Rain gods came! Hooray!

Past 24 hrs

Basin - 2.39"
PJ - 1.79"
RGV - 0.41"

Holy hell!   :icon_eek:   :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on May 21, 2017, 05:01:04 PM
Nice!   :eusa_clap:  Looks like it cooled things way down also!  :)
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on May 21, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
Rain gods came! Hooray!

Past 24 hrs

Basin - 2.39"
PJ - 1.79"
RGV - 0.41"

Holy hell!   :icon_eek:   :icon_biggrin:

That should flush the skank out of the Boot Canyon pools!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Jalco on May 21, 2017, 06:14:10 PM
From the BiBe Facebook page:

Rain in the desert! This morning a storm has blown into the Big Bend, bringing much welcomed rain along with less welcomed flash flood warnings. The road to Santa Elena Canyon and Cottonwood Campground have closed due to flooding, and parts of Ross Maxwell Scenic Rd are impassible. Check in at visitor centers for updates, as the storm moves through the park today and tomorrow. The road to Rio Grande Village and the Chisos Mountains remain unaffected at this time.
Travel with caution on all dirt roads and expect dirt roads to be very muddy, perhaps inaccessible even to 4X4 vehicles. Although hiking in the desert during a rain is a unique experience, be mindful of lightning above treeline (like on Lost Mine or Emory Peak Trails).
What is there to do on a rainy day in Big Bend? Consider walking the Window View or Basin Loop Trails in the Chisos where you might see temporary waterfalls, or watch the clouds roll over Boquillas Canyon. Or simply hide away in the Panther Junction Visitor Center with the exhibits and park film, or commune with the dinosaurs at Fossil Discovery Exhibit.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on May 22, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
From the Daily Report:
Road Closures - The following roads are closed due to severe flooding and road damage:
The Ross Maxwell Scenic Drive is closed beyond the Mule Ears Trailhead to Castolon.

There must really be some cross road debris and damage.  It also looks like quite a wall of water rolling down the river.  Yesterday the gage at Castolon was at 19' and today back to 4'   :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: House Made of Dawn on May 22, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
It also looks like quite a wall of water rolling down the river.  Yesterday the gage at Castolon was at 19' and today back to 4'   :icon_eek:

No sense in being on the river in that kind of weather. Except perhaps on a surfboard.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on May 22, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Crown Mountain area fire recovery begins...... :high5:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on May 22, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
Time for rafts in Santa Elena!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: House Made of Dawn on May 22, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
Crown Mountain area fire recovery begins...... :high5:

Amen!

Meanwhile, I look forward to Flash's float trip report. Or his autopsy.  :evil:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on May 26, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
That "little" shower last week pushed PJ and Basin rain totals back up to YTD averages.....Hooray!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on July 06, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
A localized shower came drifting down from the NNE today and showered the Basin with 0.22" rain over lunchtime.  :great:

Let the monsoon season begin!  :dance:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on July 06, 2017, 04:09:03 PM
Oh, my, I spoke too soon.  :eusa_eh:  Another inch and a half fell between 3 and 4 pm...   :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: mule ears on July 06, 2017, 04:56:55 PM
Oh, my, I spoke too soon.  :eusa_eh:  Another inch and a half fell between 3 and 4 pm...   :icon_eek:

Does this mean you in the park again?   :pissed:   :icon_mrgreen:

Plans?
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Flash on July 06, 2017, 05:07:05 PM
No I was flying my desk today.

(Flash sent this from his HTC 831C.)

Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on July 09, 2017, 08:47:52 AM
It was a pleasant 62.0 F at 05:53 this morning in the Basin. A little more rain and I'll feel the tug!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on July 13, 2017, 09:00:05 AM
0.16" in the Basin yesterday - Not much...but...the forecast for the next 10 days looks good. The rain is coming.

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=REC&issuedby=MAF
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: DesertRatShorty on July 16, 2017, 08:24:49 PM
I was looking for historical rainfall data and stumbled across the Iowa Mesonet, which has a nice visualization to help you see how actual rainfall compares with expected rainfall in any given month. For example, here's data for the Basin (https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/sites/plot.php?station=CSBT2&network=TX_DCP&prod=2&month=7&year=2017)

Click "select from map" to select a different weather station. The data seems to go back a year or two depending on the station.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on July 16, 2017, 08:40:37 PM
I was looking for historical rainfall data and stumbled across the Iowa Mesonet, which has a nice visualization to help you see how actual rainfall compares with expected rainfall in any given month. For example, here's data for the Basin (https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/sites/plot.php?station=CSBT2&network=TX_DCP&prod=2&month=7&year=2017)

Click "select from map" to select a different weather station. The data seems to go back a year or two depending on the station.

Nice find! Thanks.

Nov 2016 looks awry.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 15, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
WIth more rain in the forecast, the Basin has tallied 12.32" YTD. The long term average for for Jan-Aug is 12.49". So.... it looks like a good time to go.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Talusman on August 15, 2017, 11:36:35 AM
WIth more rain in the forecast, the Basin has tallied 12.32" YTD. The long term average for for Jan-Aug is 12.49". So.... it looks like a good time to go.

Homer Wilson and I will be there Friday! Hope we get to see it as green as you did last year!
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: rocketman on August 15, 2017, 04:47:00 PM
WIth more rain in the forecast, the Basin has tallied 12.32" YTD. The long term average for for Jan-Aug is 12.49". So.... it looks like a good time to go.

Homer Wilson and I will be there Friday! Hope we get to see it as green as you did last year!
I'll be out there Labor Day weekend. Hope to visit Cattail Falls.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Reece on August 16, 2017, 07:48:24 AM
I'll be going thus winter if my wrecked foot heals, hope the springs are still running.


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Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on August 18, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
Basin soaked up another 1.12  inches is the past 24 hours
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Imre on August 20, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Cloudy and rainy all week from 14 to 18 August. Cooler temperatures made for very pleasant day hikes in the mountains, provided you remembered to bring your rain gear.  :icon_biggrin: Not as much water flowing through Boot Canyon as I would have expected. (Here's 18 August.) However on 17 August the flow  of water on the west side -- visible from the lower part of the Laguna Meadow trail -- was truly impressive.  The only real negative aspect was that patches of the Laguna Meadow trail were just mud. The morning of 19 August (as I was leaving) was the first morning of clear blue sky.
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: Imre on August 20, 2017, 06:44:21 PM
The picture doesn't really represent the flow very well, in part, ironically because there's no sound. However I could hear the water long before I could see it.
Cheers,
Imre
Title: Re: Rain
Post by: badknees on September 27, 2017, 07:34:26 AM
TXZ081-272100-
Big Bend National Park-
316 AM CDT Wed Sep 27 2017

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING...

.TODAY...Mostly cloudy with showers likely and isolated
thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Highs in the upper
60s in the mountains to the mid 80s along the Rio Grande. Northeast
winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.
.TONIGHT...Mostly cloudy with showers likely and isolated
thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Lows in the upper
60s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation
60 percent.
.THURSDAY...Cloudy with showers likely and isolated thunderstorms.
Locally heavy rainfall possible. Highs in the lower 60s in the
mountains to the lower 80s along the Rio Grande. Northeast winds
10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.
.THURSDAY NIGHT...Cloudy with a chance of showers and isolated
thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 60s. Northeast winds around 10 mph.
Chance of precipitation 50 percent.
.FRIDAY...Cloudy with a chance of showers and isolated
thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 60s in the mountains to the lower
80s along the Rio Grande. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of
precipitation 50 percent.