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Offline Casa Grande

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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2007, 05:04:49 PM »
my own personal experience:

one rattlesnake in nearly 16 years and dozens of trips

take that for what it is worth...many more things to worry about.

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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2007, 05:45:14 PM »
I see rattlesnakes every time I visit the Bender, but the difference may be that I'm on the watch for them and go to BIBE when they're out. This is a BIBE Western Diamondback Rattlesnake:
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2007, 06:28:06 PM »
My very first adventure to BIBE back in 1979, I encountered a huge rattler crossing the park road on the way to Castolon.  :shock:  Five trips since, no rattlesnakes.  I did walk up on this little fella last November near Rice Tank.  I was told this is a non-venomous "ratsnake"... :?:



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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2007, 09:03:49 PM »
just keep your eyes open  :shock:

don't do what we did...

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NEAR DISASTER—DAY FIVE: So, there we were. Happily tromping along in the dry wash, heading towards Terlingua Creek where our truck lay waiting. Five glorious, perfect days on the mesa under our belts.

We reach the creek. Across are some nice cottonwoods and the gauging station. On our right is a sandy ledge about waist-high. Perfect pack-height. The shade is also appealing as we shrug off our packs onto the ledge and start pulling out our lunch stuff. We toss various things here and there on the ledge and next to the thick grasses at the back of the ledge. I sit on the ledge, next to my pack. Tess looks back to get something she’d forgotten…

…and sees the snake. A big (5-6’ long), thick (2-2.5” diameter), RATTLESNAKE! He is NOT happy, and rattles and hisses as we leap away to safety. Apparently all of us had been bustling about within a foot or two of this literal snake in the grass for several minutes, and as he slowly moved off we reflected on our dumb luck.
John & Tess

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2007, 09:11:39 PM »
The snakes just wanna be left alone.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2007, 09:48:27 PM »
Quote from: "Bobcat"
The snakes just wanna be left alone.


this is the absolute truth...the rattler I saw wanted nothing to do with me when I was harrassing him to take his mug....


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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2007, 10:12:57 AM »
I look for them too,(apparently not as thoroughly as Bobcat) and have only found 2 in many decades. One on the road by PJ(small) and a BEEG HONKIN Diamondback in Mariscal Mine!!! Have seen Coachwhips and a Checkered Garter(snake)
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2007, 06:19:12 PM »
This is my rookie post here so here goes...

I encountered a RS in BBRSP next to the trail and it took off away from me quickly.  I was using a hiking staff (sotol ground score) which I always use since that time, mostly due to the snake episode.  Use a staff, don't put your feet or hands where you can't see and you'll be fine.  January shouldn't be a problem, as someone else mentioned.  

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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2007, 11:56:52 PM »
I always use trekking poles.

And now that I've announced that I can barely look at even a picture of a RS and even can't touch a picture of one, thank you all those who felt it necessary to post HUGE pictures of them on this post.   Wow, with friends like you guys, I don't know what I''ll do for scary stuff.    LOL

No, really thanks everybody for all the info.  

Steven

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2007, 08:48:57 AM »
Quote from: "ReDiscovering"
I always use trekking poles.

And now that I've announced that I can barely look at even a picture of a RS and even can't touch a picture of one, thank you all those who felt it necessary to post HUGE pictures of them on this post.   Wow, with friends like you guys, I don't know what I''ll do for scary stuff.    LOL

No, really thanks everybody for all the info.  

Steven


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I didn't need a crystal ball to see that one coming! 8)

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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2007, 09:54:45 AM »
Quote from: "ReDiscovering"
And now that I've announced that I can barely look at even a picture of a RS and even can't touch a picture of one, thank you all those who felt it necessary to post HUGE pictures of them on this post.   Wow, with friends like you guys, I don't know what I''ll do for scary stuff.    LOL


But they are soooo cute!


photo from alongtheway.org
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2007, 12:50:35 PM »
The only one I've ever seen was sunning on the Southwest Rim in May 2005.








A more sedate, non-threatening side of the serpent--although if I'd tried for a closeup, it may have transformed into the temperament of the snake in the photo that Randell posted.

ReDiscovering, you might consider doing the following:

1.  Reading up on treatment of snakebites, snake behaviour, etc.

2.  Get a Sawyer Extractor kit--which I believe is now the preferred way to treat a snake bite (as well as a spider bite or bee sting).

Knowledge may help deal with the fear.

Ditto on the trekking poles.  With those swinging as you walk,  the snake then has four targets--although I suppose the pit vipers will first strike those that are the "warmest."

By the way, does anyone know what kind of rattler this is?  I tell people it is a "Big Bend South Rim Desert Pygmy Rattler"--but in the interest of full disclosure, I really don't know.

Good luck.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2007, 01:03:54 PM »
Quote from: "Boot Canyon 1 Cougar"
ReDiscovering, you might consider doing the following:

1.  Reading up on treatment of snakebites, snake behaviour, etc.

2.  Get a Sawyer Extractor kit--which I believe is now the preferred way to treat a snake bite (as well as a spider bite or bee sting).

Knowledge may help deal with the fear.

Quote from: "[url
http://firstaid.webmd.com/snakebite_treatment_firstaid.htm[/url]"]While applying mechanical suction (such as with a Sawyer Extractor) has been recommended by many authorities in the past, it is highly unlikely that it will remove any significant amount of venom, and it is possible that suction could actually increase local tissue damage.


See the Snakebites thread for lots more discussion on snakebites.

Best advice ever given on snakebite treatment remains:  Don't Get Bit!

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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2007, 02:09:22 PM »
RichardM, thanks.  I didn't realize this, and appreciate the new information.

Here is a link to National Outdoor Leadership School page that provides more info.

http://www.nols.edu/wmi/curriculum_updates/archive/041105_sawyer.shtml

ReDiscovering, I bet you already feel that fear of rattlers diminishing.
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2007, 09:26:12 PM »
Quote from: "Boot Canyon 1 Cougar"

ReDiscovering, I bet you already feel that fear of rattlers diminishing.


LOL.   I wish!   I now have a new fear:  Opening this thread and seeing ALL THE NEW PICTURES OF FRIGGIN' RATTLE SERPANTS!!!!

This is not aversion therapy, guys.     sheeesh.   lol

And believe me, I'm actually quite up to date on the latest educational info and safety precausions.   Remember, I have had this going on since I was 5 years old, so I can assure you I've educated myself.  But I truely appreciate all the discussion

 


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