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A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila

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A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« on: February 14, 2019, 11:17:36 PM »
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 08:21:35 AM by ParkRager »

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2019, 12:48:44 AM »
Iíll be in MDA tomorrow and Saturday.

Best option is prolly to hike on trail to just before Mariposa and take a right down to Metates camp, put in there.

The hike back from SE to the trailhead strikes me as being more like 12 miles than 7-8, but Iíve never gone that way

Canít comment on Talley

Sounds like fun. Please post TR here when done!

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2019, 05:41:41 AM »
You will have to check with the park and being a ranger at Canyonlands they might clear it but not sure normal humans can actually drive to the base of the Mesa near the airport.  The walk back to the truck is not too bad but the last part before the park boundary has a lot of cross wash work.  You won't run into any people legal or not on the Mesa or crossing Mariscal Mtn. 

They always talk about the danger of break ins at Talley but again I would check with the rangers as to the actual recent issues.  Check the trip reports pages there is at least on MDA/Rio packraft report and one canoe or inflatable kayak float and hike back across of Mariscal Mtn.

You can do this no problem, have a great time and welcome to BBC!
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2019, 08:26:13 AM »
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 08:22:00 AM by ParkRager »

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2019, 08:33:10 AM »
That road is probably on private land owned by the Lajitas people, so access wouldn't be possible.  It's different than the wonderful public land with easy access you're used to out west  :(

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2019, 08:43:35 AM »
Iím curious why you say normal people can drive there? I see a road go from the airport, trending South Eas along the northern side of the Mesa, then ending in a loop parking lot. And that is exactly at the boundary, but outside of it. From there a trail starts, that I have found on very few maps but it is on the trails Illustrated map and on my gps as a packstock trail. Just wondering why Iíd need to ask the park permission to drive up to their boundar but not past it. Is that road from the airport not open for border security or something?

That road is probably on private land owned by the Lajitas people, so access wouldn't be possible.  It's different than the wonderful public land with easy access you're used to out west  :(

That is what I meant, probably private property (most likely Lajitas resort) but they probably let Park Service folks drive there.
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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2019, 09:11:27 AM »
The land you are looking at near the airport I indeed private property owned by lajitas resort. Furthermore, the loop 4 Jeep road is part of a 30 mile mountain bike trail network in between the airport and the MdA. I doubt lajitas resort would be too keen on you driving and parking there, but being a NPS employee you never know. You would have to talk to them rather than the NPS. Unfortunately most of our land here in Texas is very aggressively privately owned.
As an alternative, I would think about parking at the Santa Elena takeout and hike north in or around terlingua creek until you get far enough north to find the pack trail that goes back south and eventually west past canyon flag and then down to the river past la mariposa at entrance camp. The hiking mileage here would be longer than any single day of your original itinerary but then you would packraft from entrance camp directly to your truck. This would also put you in a straight and shorter path to talley via river road.
Good luck sounds awesome! Iíve done a few packrafting trips from the Mesa into Santa Elena. It is the best way to see the area.
It's amazing how quickly the human body deteriorates when you sit around indoors.

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2019, 09:28:02 AM »
Also rockslide rapid is 2+ at the most and though there are other named rapids, it is the biggest. I wouldnít be too concerned with break ins at Talley. It happens but not every time someone parks there. Just hide your valuables. The only other unsolicited advice I would offer I to be ready for any given trail you see on the map to be overgrown and periodically unnavigable without gps or a Topo map. You are surely experienced, but these rarely visited parts of the Mesa de Anguila and mariscal canyon are quite rugged.
It's amazing how quickly the human body deteriorates when you sit around indoors.

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2019, 09:53:08 AM »
Hurray for packrafting in the Bend!  If you are comfortable with some scrambling and off trail, starting at Terlingua Abajo and scrambling up the mesa side at the mouth of Bruja canyon then bushwacking towards Tinaja Lujan is a fun option that cuts down on mileage vs looping back to Terlingua.  And cuts out the access issues.  Pick up the pack trail and go over the hump to entrance camp.  I did a similar trip a few years ago; it's still one of my favorites in the park.

http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/members-only-photos-and-reports/packrafting-big-bend/msg147611/#msg147611

Bonus points if you bring canyoneering gear and take a day to descend Tinaja Blanca and Joel's canyons.  I need to go back for that one...

I'm jealous, but I'll be out there next weekend with some friends to float Mariscall and hike the rim back.  Have fun!

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2019, 02:07:45 PM »
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 08:22:43 AM by ParkRager »
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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 08:23:09 AM by ParkRager »

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Re: A question on packrafting and routes Mesa De Anguila
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2019, 03:51:33 PM »
Fantastic everyone! I think I will do Abajo and climb up Bruja. Also, camp at Sollis instead.  I know the rules for packrafting, as they are pretty much the same everywhere. Thanks ya'll

Outstanding!  Man, I can hardly wait to read your trip report. Have fun!
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