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Title: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: DesertRatShorty on January 01, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
from Flickr (sorry they all show up the same size in the preview)

Medium 800x600

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4634/38373565045_480f28e0ee_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21sWxYr)

Large 1024 x 768

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4634/38373565045_480f28e0ee_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21sWxYr)

Large 1600 x 1200

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4634/38373565045_a6e0ab629e_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21sWxYr)
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Jonathan Sadow on January 03, 2018, 01:51:26 PM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.

I believe that is correct, however if you have the image linked to an external host, you can right click and "open in new tab". This will allow you to view the image in its native size.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: horns93 on January 03, 2018, 02:10:58 PM
Has anyone figured out how to embed photos posted on Adobe Lightroom?
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Hang10er on January 03, 2018, 02:14:48 PM
Now that Photobucket is no longer hosting images (for free at least) to post on a 3rd website, where are y'all keeping your pictures?
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Homer Wilson on January 03, 2018, 02:20:24 PM
imgur
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: RichardM on January 03, 2018, 02:57:15 PM
Now that Photobucket is no longer hosting images (for free at least) to post on a 3rd website, where are y'all keeping your pictures?
Imgur will let you set up an account and have albums, but it seems that if you upload in bulk, the order will get scrambled when it randomly assigns file names. :eusa_doh: That makes it more tedious to embed images, as you have to go get the URL for each image.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Robert on January 03, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
Has anyone figured out how to embed photos posted on Adobe Lightroom?

Can you generate a url from Lightroom? You are talking about the hosted version? My version of Lightroom runs on my PC so I have to publish the images elsewhere.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: RichardM on January 03, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.
The displayed image size is capped at 640x640. This means anything larger is scaled down to fit within that size. As we found out the hard way several years ago, extremely large embedded images in a post with lots of them can bog down the software so much that the page won't fully load. Using Flickr lets you select the size of the image to embed, while providing a link to the one on their site where the viewer can select from available resolutions.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/HowToFlickr1.jpg)

For most other hosting sites, Imgur, etc., it's a balancing act of optimizing file size and resolution.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 03:48:09 PM
Has anyone figured out how to embed photos posted on Adobe Lightroom?

Can you generate a url from Lightroom? You are talking about the hosted version? My version of Lightroom runs on my PC so I have to publish the images elsewhere.

If you have a cloud version of Lightroom, you can share a "Lightroom Collection" You cannot hotlink (I don't think). You can however set up a free Google Drive and link your photos from that. Create a shareable link on your Google Drive and copy that link. Paste it between the image headers, BUT CHANGE the word OPEN in the link to UC. You can then hotlink.

The free Google drive allows 15GB of free storage. If you have a Gmail account you have a Google Drive. If not you can sign up for a free one


The shareable link on the Google Drive looks like this

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gehdiJfCbES6ml9KP-j8MIKL8A71WfCi        Change the word open to uc

So it looks like this

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gehdiJfCbES6ml9KP-j8MIKL8A71WfCi

And place the link inside the img tags like normal

The below photo is hotlinked from my Google Drive

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gehdiJfCbES6ml9KP-j8MIKL8A71WfCi)
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: horns93 on January 03, 2018, 03:49:07 PM
Has anyone figured out how to embed photos posted on Adobe Lightroom?

Can you generate a url from Lightroom? You are talking about the hosted version? My version of Lightroom runs on my PC so I have to publish the images elsewhere.

You can through the Adobe Cloud. You can share any photo to the cloud via your desktop version of the software. But when you post the shared URL using the "Insert Image" function it does not embed the photo for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 04:00:16 PM
Has anyone figured out how to embed photos posted on Adobe Lightroom?

Can you generate a url from Lightroom? You are talking about the hosted version? My version of Lightroom runs on my PC so I have to publish the images elsewhere.

You can through the Adobe Cloud. You can share any photo to the cloud via your desktop version of the software. But when you post the shared URL using the "Insert Image" function it does not embed the photo for whatever reason.

You can't hotlink (I don't think) to Lightroom cloud version. Look 2 posts up for a way to hotlink from a free Google Drive

Also....any image that is hotlinked to the forum will be resized dynamically to the 640x480 max that Richard referred to. You can still right click on a hotlinked photo and "open in new tab" to view the native size.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 03, 2018, 04:34:15 PM
This is why I like pencil sketches.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: mule ears on January 03, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
This is why I like pencil sketches.

Why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 04:51:43 PM
This is why I like pencil sketches.

Come on! You’re an intelligent guy and I have provided a 15GB free effective solution.

How about “Gee BK, thanks for the 15GB free effective solution” ?

It is the age of technology!  :victory: Get with the program :icon_smile:

Everyone likes a free effective solution. Don’t they?

Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Homer Wilson on January 03, 2018, 05:38:35 PM
BK, where do you pull the link from in drive? I can get a shareable link, but it doesn't look like your example.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 05:49:09 PM
BK, where do you pull the link from in drive? I can get a shareable link, but it doesn't look like your example.

After you upload your picture, go to the folder and right click on the photo

You should get a drop down menu that has a “get shareable link” option

Copy that link. It should start with https://drive.google.com/open?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don't use the "Share" option in the drop down.

You can copy the link by using CTL C from the keyboard
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Flash on January 03, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
BK, where do you pull the link from in drive? I can get a shareable link, but it doesn't look like your example.

After you upload your picture, go to the folder and right click on the photo

You should get a drop down menu that has a “get shareable link” option

Copy that link. It should start with https://drive.google.com/open?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don't use the "Share"

You can copy the link by using CTL C from the keyboard

Like this?  :great:

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1dxUMQImns0hbOMVnv2UfYZwsS-QZQjcn)

BK, what is with the changing 'open' to 'uc' part?  :eusa_eh:
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: Hang10er on January 03, 2018, 06:02:31 PM
Thanks Badknees...I have a Google account, just couldn't make it work.  Will try it soon.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 06:08:37 PM
BK, where do you pull the link from in drive? I can get a shareable link, but it doesn't look like your example.

After you upload your picture, go to the folder and right click on the photo

You should get a drop down menu that has a “get shareable link” option

Copy that link. It should start with https://drive.google.com/open?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don't use the "Share"

You can copy the link by using CTL C from the keyboard

Like this?  :great:

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1dxUMQImns0hbOMVnv2UfYZwsS-QZQjcn)

BK, what is with the changing 'open' to 'uc' part?  :eusa_eh:

Hey! You got it!  Free and easy.

If you keep it Open, it will open in a google viewer and won’t hotlink
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: House Made of Dawn on January 03, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
This is why I like pencil sketches.

Come on! You’re an intelligent guy and I have provided a 15GB free effective solution.

How about “Gee BK, thanks for the 15GB free effective solution” ?

It is the age of technology!  :victory: Get with the program :icon_smile:

Everyone likes a free effective solution. Don’t they?

You are, of course, completely right, BK.  Thanks for the free effective solution!   :great:

Currently my squirrels are on strike. Once I get the cage moving again, I'll try this out.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 06:23:17 PM
This is why I like pencil sketches.

Come on! You’re an intelligent guy and I have provided a 15GB free effective solution.

How about “Gee BK, thanks for the 15GB free effective solution” ?

It is the age of technology!  :victory: Get with the program :icon_smile:

Everyone likes a free effective solution. Don’t they?

You are, of course, completely right, BK.  Thanks for the free effective solution!   :great:

Currently my squirrels are on strike. Once I get the cage moving again, I'll try this out.

You know I’m just messin with you.

I don’t use this technique generally, because I already have a hosting solution with my web presence, but this works well for those who don’t. Once you access your google account and do it one time, it’s really is pretty simple.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: DesertRatShorty on January 03, 2018, 09:57:54 PM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.
The displayed image size is capped at 640x640. This means anything larger is scaled down to fit within that size. As we found out the hard way several years ago, extremely large embedded images in a post with lots of them can bog down the software so much that the page won't fully load. Using Flickr lets you select the size of the image to embed, while providing a link to the one on their site where the viewer can select from available resolutions.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/HowToFlickr1.jpg)

For most other hosting sites, Imgur, etc., it's a balancing act of optimizing file size and resolution.

In my test post, the large image looks larger than the medium on my desktop, and both are bigger than 640 x 640, so I'm a little confused. Also in the report I just finished, I used Large 1600 x 1200 images from Flickr -- I didn't realize people had replied to this thread until just now. Apologies if that is going to slow down the software.
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: badknees on January 03, 2018, 11:19:12 PM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.
The displayed image size is capped at 640x640. This means anything larger is scaled down to fit within that size. As we found out the hard way several years ago, extremely large embedded images in a post with lots of them can bog down the software so much that the page won't fully load. Using Flickr lets you select the size of the image to embed, while providing a link to the one on their site where the viewer can select from available resolutions.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/HowToFlickr1.jpg)

For most other hosting sites, Imgur, etc., it's a balancing act of optimizing file size and resolution.

In my test post, the large image looks larger than the medium on my desktop, and both are bigger than 640 x 640, so I'm a little confused. Also in the report I just finished, I used Large 1600 x 1200 images from Flickr -- I didn't realize people had replied to this thread until just now. Apologies if that is going to slow down the software.

All of the different sizes you posted look the same in the forum. If some look larger that means you are probably opening the original file on Flickr. It doesn’t matter which size you link, the forum will resize dynamically to a max of 640 on the longest size. It is of little value to post photos larger than that unless you want to be able to link back to the original for a specific reason. If you open a full sized link in a new tab your browser is serving the link, NOT the forum.

Another thing to realize is that the forum software determines the maximum size that is displayed in YOUR browser. Either way if you link to a 10mb file, the hit for bandwidth still exists, but the CSS interpolates the large file so that the forum only serves a 640 pixel maximum dimension(can be defined) for height or width. 
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: RichardM on January 04, 2018, 09:40:06 AM
Someone who knows more about this can perhaps comment, but I think that the board software caps the image size displayed in posts to 640x480 pixels no matter what size one specifies on Flikr.
The displayed image size is capped at 640x640. This means anything larger is scaled down to fit within that size. As we found out the hard way several years ago, extremely large embedded images in a post with lots of them can bog down the software so much that the page won't fully load. Using Flickr lets you select the size of the image to embed, while providing a link to the one on their site where the viewer can select from available resolutions.

(http://www.bigbendgallery.com/uploads/files/HowToFlickr1.jpg)

For most other hosting sites, Imgur, etc., it's a balancing act of optimizing file size and resolution.

In my test post, the large image looks larger than the medium on my desktop, and both are bigger than 640 x 640, so I'm a little confused. Also in the report I just finished, I used Large 1600 x 1200 images from Flickr -- I didn't realize people had replied to this thread until just now. Apologies if that is going to slow down the software.

All of the different sizes you posted look the same in the forum. If some look larger that means you are probably opening the original file on Flickr. It doesn’t matter which size you link, the forum will resize dynamically to a max of 640 on the longest size. It is of little value to post photos larger than that unless you want to be able to link back to the original for a specific reason. If you open a full sized link in a new tab your browser is serving the link, NOT the forum.

Another thing to realize is that the forum software determines the maximum size that is displayed in YOUR browser. Either way if you link to a 10mb file, the hit for bandwidth still exists, but the CSS interpolates the large file so that the forum only serves a 640 pixel maximum dimension(can be defined) for height or width.

Well said, BK.

DSR, 1600x1200 is fine. That's about what I usually post when using imgur, etc. For maximum efficiency (can you tell I'm an engineer?), using the 640 option with Flickr is ideal. Anything larger requires resizing. Either way, the viewer has the option of seeing the original by clicking through to Flickr. Also, the board's software is not completely reliable or consistent when displaying images. Oftentimes the preview function will show something larger than 640x640. Also, it can get confused by long hyperlinks in a post and end up not resizing images. All part of the fun of using freeware. ;)

The problem I mentioned earlier happened when a user posted a ton of pictures in a single post, each having a file size of over 10Mb. Took me an hour or two to clean up that mess. :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Testing some different photo sizes
Post by: RichardM on January 04, 2018, 11:19:22 AM
BK, where do you pull the link from in drive? I can get a shareable link, but it doesn't look like your example.

After you upload your picture, go to the folder and right click on the photo

You should get a drop down menu that has a “get shareable link” option

Copy that link. It should start with https://drive.google.com/open?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don't use the "Share" option in the drop down.

You can copy the link by using CTL C from the keyboard
And to embed photos from photos.google.com, you need to go to the image page (https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPq8e1d-1cSBKke4hyS4EoVn2ecRc6maHvzGCsF) and right-click on the image to save the image address (which will be huge). Even though the URL for the image doesn't end in .jpg, the board seems to still recognize it as a photo and it works when pasted inside [img][/img] tags.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1Zex8_l1UtiH6MAxXxrsCQlcPlL-LUn6nQBXa-h0zPbekpCvMTR_1K_uqBtxH11ZWXK5gBMZYKe3YOsNZErUl7yZWfuJsQTUhJaxa5MMohDx0dHE8-oblt2cz_Ov5BQTIm3i21I54BRwll2YsTNoWlTdpoEqqLazZ61Xs5agY62z1mUmx9g-aFCEeuR4FzTnvExp19BffyFAMNpdRC1LeANpOr6mBoV6dVP1Xs7gqlyzbqy_LV_5Cb4TaYQEEN_OS987tafg5SWzlxn2CFTz-AupUhBWfhenbaV3dGF2D9CiHrv6nNw8o4PWGdRiErFXAukwlw4KzxJsLzoPz0-FuSGuauOpYS2GwtxHDk0QG2J0_KfoqlKvUBE31P3nErgN8Aqy-dOz3rti0gjkXSEw0OMG8zSCtXePSXA84tDtLqbltTy6zvmviaUW2dmRP_ZAkfK66CqSkXUk0HI9seDIXmX40MLVExEo4vzNv3-3cUvRRY-QQ2S3KnJB4LgLsHvkMsqsJOVD3yg9PCJ5vNH1pr_pHcY2wXvAwFR5tqq6GIByrWYVOJajaApLAvbHxW69S8NIgd8ofrbujYG9jpr9k6637-stz6Ri_Ltpto0=w987-h740-no)