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Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike

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Offline Reece

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 02:00:16 PM »
So if Juniper is dry, just keep going to Boot Spring?
Is the campsite the "X" on the map, just east of the Boot Spring "W"?
BTW the map is really good. I'm going to make a few lon/lat notes and I should be good to go.
Thanks again.

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 03:32:55 PM »
Next week?

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 08:07:02 PM »
Dang, I knew that!
Stupid me.
Now you're starting to see who you're dealing with, eh?

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 08:38:45 PM »
Is water still flowing out of the pipe at upper Juniper Spring?  I had to chase a dozen javelina's out of their many years ago to get my water. 

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2010, 06:24:04 AM »
I assume you mean Upper Juniper Spring. I sure hope there's water. Otherwise, Quicksilver might hear me cussing him all the way from Houston.

Anybody have the coordinates of Upper Juniper Spring. I enjoy a treasure hunt as much as the next guy but not when I'm dying of thirst.

Hey QS, is the Juniper Trail pretty well marked? You know how I tend to get lost.

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2010, 06:43:31 AM »
Something to consider which I overlooked before is that your hips and knees need to get use to walking on an uneven surface.  Training on a treadmill or even the hike and bike trail is completely different than walking on the rock strewn trails of BB.  The fist size rocks which make up most of the trails induce a dynamic stabilization requirement of your joints which is not experienced when walking on treadmills.  Best thing I found is to find mountain bike trails like the green belt in Austin or the mountain bike trail at Canyon Lake.  Hiking poles also made a huge difference me.

Good point... I do hikes in the Wichita Mtns near Lawton, OK.  The trails there are about the closest to those in BIBE.  Treadmills are fine for building cardio endurance, but cannot mimic a steep rocky trail.

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 07:04:30 AM »
Man after my own budget.
dkerr - Do you have a recommendation for a free standing 1-man tent under 3 lbs.

Although a bit pricey, I've heard nothing but rave reviews for the Tarptent Contrail.  It saves weight by using your hiking poles to hold up the tent. 

** Correction **  The Tarptent Rainbow is the free-standing model, not the Contrail.  The Rainbow uses the trekking poles to turn the tent into a free-standing one, not used to hold it up like the Contrail.

I just use a cheap REI Camp Dome 2 tent ($99).  It's about 5.5 lbs, but plenty of room for 2 people, or for 1 person and all their gear.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 11:14:57 AM by dkerr24 »

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 09:38:21 AM »
Juniper trail is easy to follow... the only issue I had was 6 feet tall vegetation which made going rough in one short segment.  Otherwise, the trail is obvious.

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 11:21:56 AM »
Upper Juniper Spring is right on the trail and is really a pipe coming out of the rocks.  If it is running you will not miss it because the ground will be wet.  At least that is my rememberance.  I have never really seen lower Juniper Spring. 

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 12:34:00 PM »
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Hey Reece, I hear the demons of fear gathering
No kidding, if it wasn't terrifying to hike solo on a pair of 64 year-old spindly legs from the Chihuahuan Desert floor up some gawd forsaken canyon gaining 2,000 feet of elevation, having as my destination an unreliable water source in the early Texas winter in order to contend with late hibernating rattle snakes, cougars and Black bears for a place to sit down, I wouldn't be going at all. The fear factor is part of the fun. I just want to know where the damn spring is!
Right or Left side of the trail - it kind of depends on which way you're headed now doesn't it?
These are the experienced guys I'm depending on for advice?!
I thought I was the one who was lost!
Go ahead and smite me. I don't care anymore!
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 01:16:34 PM by Reece »

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 01:44:46 PM »
I can't believe that GPS coordinates are not available for the only water source for miles around on such a heavily traveled trail. What's up with that? Some kind of a secret?

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Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2010, 01:55:06 PM »
If I remember right, there's a small metal sign with an arrow pointing to a faint social trail heading to the right if you are hiking DOWN the JC trail (left I headed UP). That trail leads to some concrete water trough ruins. From the ruins, head straight up the hillside to the right. If the spring is flowing, there will b trickles if water coming down this hillside.

I've also found water below the ruins where a huge boulder has choked the stream bed. There was a large pool of water there but climbing to it is precarious. Only try it if you have no other option.

You might also find water in pools upstream in Boot Canyon between the JC trail junction and the Rim ebb if boot spring is dry.
Jeff Blaylock
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"We'll be back, someday soon. We will return, someday, and when we do the gritty
splendor and the complicated grandeur of Big Bend will still be here. Waiting for us."--Ed Abbey

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2010, 02:11:26 PM »
Thanks Jeff, between Quicksilver's excellent map and your excellent directions, I feel sure that I can find it now and when I do, I hope to Hanna there's a few drops of water there to fill my canteen because I'm not carrying 4 gallons of water up this mountain!

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is it possible that you cannot read a Topo?
It's not only "possible" it's probable to the point of being dang near certain.
I'll see if I can find an on-line tutorial tonight.
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I might have overreached in suggesting Juniper as an entry to the Chisos.
No way! I've already driven up, now I'm going to walk it!

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2010, 02:15:22 PM »
That may be a record. More smites than applauds - somebody check it out!
There should be some consolation prize for helping generate hits though.

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Re: Training for my upcoming Juniper Canyon hike
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2010, 02:28:38 PM »
the metal sign says juniper camp, if you are going up juniper canyon trail the side trail to juniper camp is to the left. to read these post it sounds like we all found water at different places. i found water coming out from under a large boulder which was surrounded by poison ivy. i thought i had found upper juniper spring ,but maybe not.
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