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Offline bdann

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« on: June 25, 2007, 10:01:51 PM »


The caption reads, "A hidden dugout under rock ledges was the home of some early Big Bend inhabitant - he also protected himself from enemies by camouflaging his stone buildings and shelter caves."

photo by Peter Koch, from "A Guide For the Big Bend" by Helen Maxwell & Peter Koch.

for a (much) larger version click here.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 09:20:31 AM »
It is on some land that I used to lease for many years  near the Mariposa Mine.

The section is and was designated "Historical" by the state.

btw,  the town of Terlingua has sorta floated boundries thru the years depending on where the post office was located.

The Post Office used to be on the Mariposa, b4 Perry built up the now Terlingua Ghostown in early 1900's.

Most of all southern Brewster is shown on some old maps as the "Terlingua Mining District".

The District included all the mines except the ones that are now in the Big Bend National Park.

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 10:06:15 AM »
Quote from: "rgibson"
It is on some land that I used to lease for many years  near the Mariposa Mine.


Did you ever venture inside & check it out?  Anything interesting?
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Re: old dwelling - Anyone know where this is/was?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 10:07:35 AM »
Quote from: "bdann"


The caption reads, "A hidden dugout under rock ledges was the home of some early Big Bend inhabitant - he also protected himself from enemies by camouflaging his stone buildings and shelter caves."

photo by Peter Koch, from "A Guide For the Big Bend" by Helen Maxwell & Peter Koch.



The Jack Wise dugout is located near Santa Elena Canyon and this image is the condition of it in February, 1984 when I surveyed the reroute of the Canyon Loop Road. In Pete Koch's photo, Terlingua Creek is visible in the background of his image. My 1984 photo is from a different angle but still shows the opening of the alcove. The rock walls extending out from the front of the small alcove had crumbled somewhat by 1984, but are still identifiable although partially covered by the melting of surrounding clay soil. The posts propping up the  overhanging ledge were still there in 1984, but the rock above them had collapsed and the clay was filling in the alcove.

Ross Maxwell described Jack Wise as a man who left the city to become a hermit and lived in the dugout for several years. Ross also told a story about his escapades with Roy Bedicheck and J. Frank Dobie that included Jack Wise. He called it the Knee Rabbit Story that reportedly was concocted by the three while they were near Jack Wise's house, and which has never been published. Ross never liked being tape recorded, but he agreed to me recording it in the mid 1980s. One of these days I'll get that story published.
The opinion expressed above is my own and not that of the National Park Service or the Federal government.

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 11:32:05 AM »
Thanks for the info BIBEARCH.  

I'm assuming the structure rgibson is familiar with and the one in the photo are not the same.
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old dwelling - Anyone know where this is/was?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 11:54:02 AM »
wow, very cool!   :o

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 12:12:27 PM »
Quote from: "bdann"
I'm assuming the structure rgibson is familiar with and the one in the photo are not the same.


I'm not sure which one Roger is thinking about. There are an amazing number of little dugouts scattered all over this country. Some of the dugouts in this region and especially the jacal type construction appear to be descended from the prehistoric pit house tradition that was carried forth through intermarriage by indigenous people and the Hispanic community. This little dugout was an opportunistic use of a natural feature by an Anglo-American.
The opinion expressed above is my own and not that of the National Park Service or the Federal government.

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 02:13:39 PM »
Guess it is not the same.  The way the land lays is the same or very similar and the dugout is also.  Did not know of this other dugout.

Yes, have been inside the one near the Mariposa many times.

Steve Parent had used other buildings on the section I leased in his annual Big Bend calender.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 08:25:18 PM »
Great pictures and the story behind the pictures.  Thanks for sharing, everyone!!


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