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Title: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on August 19, 2017, 12:35:09 PM
The "shoulder months" are nearing.  What are you doing right now to get ready (equipment purchases, equipment prep, personal prep, and etc.)?
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: DesertRatShorty on August 19, 2017, 04:32:43 PM
Too many things to list here, it'll have to wait till the next trip report. But I will share one item I've picked up that may be useful to others. The hip belt bottle holder from Jandd Mountaineering. Much better balance and hip transfer than carrying water in your pack.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on August 19, 2017, 09:29:31 PM
Too many things to list here, it'll have to wait till the next trip report. But I will share one item I've picked up that may be useful to others. The hip belt bottle holder from Jandd Mountaineering. Much better balance and hip transfer than carrying water in your pack.

I have never adjusted fully to the immense water load required in the Bend.  I like your hip belt idea.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: wrangler88 on August 20, 2017, 01:49:45 PM
I may try to do the OML or a trip to BBRSP this fall/winter. Haven't really decided for sure. It's been about 10 years since I've backpacked at BB.

Been reading a lot on the forums. And started walking on incline on a treadmill almost everyday. (I know its not hiking but I need that ac when its over 100!)

Just about to start to get into backpacking season. I have my first over night trip since early spring tomorrow. Then have another planned at Guadalupe Mountains National Park at the first of September. Have a couple new pieces of gear I want to try out. Got a Six Moon Designs Gatewood Cape and Net and one of the 1oz canister stoves that I haven't used in the field yet.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Hang10er on August 20, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
I've started prepping for my Oct trip by posting my itinerary on here both for suggestions and the therapeutic benefit of writing it out.

I've begun the packing list in my mind and will start getting it on paper really soon (although it's months off).

I've also kind of started a physical assessment in my mind of not only my equipment but of my personal health and ability.  I'll decide on a plan of action to address any found deficiencies, i.e., tent to heavy, leave it or get a lighter one, belly too big, eat less, run more or do both. 
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: GaryF on August 20, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
My goal for this winter is a 6 day trip down Telephone, up the Strawhouse, and across Ernst Basin. Toward that end:

Backpack - My little Zpacks pack is just not up to the loads that will include 3 gallons of water at a couple of points in the trip. I've been playing around with my old pack, an almost 20 year old North Face Thin Air, trying to decide if it's still a viable option. If not, the Seek Outside Divide is my leading candidate for a new pack that will be able to handle desert water loads.

Kitchen - I've never been big on the freeze dried meals. Not that they aren't good, but they are expensive, and they have a lot of packaging compared to grocery store alternatives. I'm rethinking that, at least for desert hiking. I like the water savings for one thing, no cleanup required.  Thinking along those lines, a smaller, lighter cook pot would be sufficient, maybe a Toaks 650ml. I also need a longer spoon to get to the bottom of those freeze dried pouches. Maybe the MSR Folding Spoon, or the Optimus extendable spoon.

Sleeping Pad - On my OML hike this past Jan, I didn't sleep very well. A Thermarest Prolite small pad, on top of a 3/8" closed cell pad, seemed good in theory, but after 2 nights of tossing and turning, my hips were sore and felt almost bruised.  I found a good deal on a Thermarest Xtherm pad, which should solve the issue, but I'm still trying to come up with something reasonably lightweight to put under the Xtherm to protect it from thorns.

Fitness / Weight loss - If I don't get my act together, this trip may be out of my comfort zone. The OML pushed my limits more than I like to admit. Part of that was because of almost zero training carrying a loaded pack. Part of it was because I need to lose some weight, and I'm behind on my targets for weight loss. Aerobically I do ok, I got up Juniper Canyon without too much trauma, but walking down Blue Creek the next day with the brakes on just about did me in. Across the Dodson, all I could manage was about 1 mile per hour, on average.  I will not attempt this longer hike unless I'm about 30 lbs lighter than I was in January.

My other challenge may be getting the time off work. The little IT services company that I work for just landed a contract that will more than double our size between August and October. With that will come a lot of challenges, and it may be difficult to take a full week off.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Jalco on August 20, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
So, I ran across this "poor man's" training regimen, involving potatoe sacks

Week 1: Put a 5-lb potato sack in your backpack.  Walk about 1-2 miles every day.
Week 2: Increase distance to 2-5 miles.
Week 3: Put a 10-lb potato sack in your backpack.  Walk about 1-2 miles every day.
Week 4: Increase distance to 2-5 miles.
Week 5: Go back to the 5-lb potato sack.  This time, put in 1 or 2 potatoes.......
 8)
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: horns93 on August 20, 2017, 05:56:08 PM
Training - I've upped my running to 10-15 miles per week. Try to get out for day hikes at least once per month. Once the weather cools off a bit I plan on day hiking with a full pack.

Equipment - I have been researching quilts to switch from a sleeping bag. I find a sleeping bag too confining considering how much I turn at night. Been looking at the Themarest Corus HD and will probably purchase it as soon as it goes on sale. If anyone has any good quilt recommends in the 200-300 range I would appreciate it.

I'm doing my first OML in November and plan to be ready for it. I'm planning a couple of weekend backpacking trips in the fall. I would like to hit Colorado Bend and Garner SP if I can work it out.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Cookie on August 21, 2017, 06:42:45 AM
Equipment - I have been researching quilts to switch from a sleeping bag. I find a sleeping bag too confining considering how much I turn at night. Been looking at the Themarest Corus HD and will probably purchase it as soon as it goes on sale. If anyone has any good quilt recommends in the 200-300 range I would appreciate it.



I can't say enough good things about these quilts https://enlightenedequipment.com/quilts/
Me and El Hombre both have the "Revelation"  and it has performed in the teens to  20 degree temps and opened up for those warmer nights. We even bought one for our 13 year old that she will use for many years to come. BUY IT!!!!

~Cookie
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Talusman on August 21, 2017, 03:02:19 PM
The "shoulder months" are nearing.  What are you doing right now to get ready (equipment purchases, equipment prep, personal prep, and etc.)?

Why, going backpacking and logging miles and vertical on rough terrain! Just got back from Big Bend. It's green and beautiful with lots of water. Rained three times, hard, from Friday to Saturday night, Go NOW!
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Homer Wilson on August 21, 2017, 03:23:53 PM
Stairs and uphill runs! Also, it's already backpacking season!  Talsuman and I were there this weekend and it was amazing weather.  Even in the desert, it was much better than the weather in Austin!

Desert Rat - I'm intrigued by the hip pack for water.  I too hate all the water weight on my back.  I strap two one liter bladders to the front straps of my pack.  Works great but it's hard to keep them from flapping around.  Having water on the waist seems a little more stable, and completely removes the load from your shoulders instead of just balancing it better.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on August 21, 2017, 04:16:26 PM
The "shoulder months" are nearing.  What are you doing right now to get ready (equipment purchases, equipment prep, personal prep, and etc.)?

Why, going backpacking and logging miles and vertical on rough terrain! Just got back from Big Bend. It's green and beautiful with lots of water. Rained three times, hard, from Friday to Saturday night, Go NOW!

I love the Bend in August - I just can't get free right now
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Flash on August 21, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
What are you doing right now to get ready (equipment purchases, equipment prep, personal prep, and etc.)?

Mental:
Trying to shake off the between trip doldrums.
Still kind of processing my last two trips. Good trips: One solo and one with my wife.
Younger son has declared his interest and willingness to do the OML with me next spring break (might try to switch this to winter break).

Physical:
Mowing the St. Augustine on our corner lot weekly with a push mower.
Taking our lab for his evening walks.
Using stairs at the work place most the time.
Trying to get motivated for a bit more serious exercise (see spring break OML above).

Equipment:
Putting Bilstein 5100 shocks on the Tacoma. Did the rear shocks myself. Now either doing the fronts myself or may pay a shop to stick them on.
Adding to my onboard tire repair gear.
Backpacking gear-wise I am currently pretty content to work with what I have, but perhaps just figure out how to utilize it better.

- Flash
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: horns93 on August 22, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
Equipment - I have been researching quilts to switch from a sleeping bag. I find a sleeping bag too confining considering how much I turn at night. Been looking at the Themarest Corus HD and will probably purchase it as soon as it goes on sale. If anyone has any good quilt recommends in the 200-300 range I would appreciate it.



I can't say enough good things about these quilts https://enlightenedequipment.com/quilts/
Me and El Hombre both have the "Revelation"  and it has performed in the teens to  20 degree temps and opened up for those warmer nights. We even bought one for our 13 year old that she will use for many years to come. BUY IT!!!!

~Cookie

Awesome! Thanks for the recommend. I've heard good things about their quilts.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Homer67 on September 07, 2017, 12:30:42 PM
I have a Corus. I love it.

Right now I am mulling over a 6- or 7-night return for a Quemada Loop.  I'd love an extended hike with only myself for my 50th. I am considering a new pack; I think I want an Osprey Exos 58 for trips that I do not have to haul camp for 3 - Osprey's AG system is tops.

Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: PacingTheCage on September 07, 2017, 03:53:25 PM
Hiking the OML with my youngest son and his father-in-law in November.  It will be my son's first hike and first trip to BiBe. This will be our 1st OML hike.

We've planned warm up day hikes which began last Sunday with a 5 mile hike and low pack weight.  We have several other day hikes planned increasing the mileage and the pack weight.  Will do two overnight hikes with full packs before we go.  Checking gear to make sure we have what we need and that everything is in working order.  My goal is to get my pack weight down to no more than 30 pounds including water.  That seems very ambitious to me. Reading all he OML posts here at Big Bend Chat so that we know what we're doing.  Studying the map.  Identyfying the locations of the springs, etc.

Pesonally I'm getting in shape by riding a Peloton bike: 3 power rides, 2 endurance rides, and one HIIT ride per week.  Walking several times a week after work with a light pack for 2 to 4 miles.  I need to incoroporate some strength training into this.  I do stretch daily to keep the kinks out.  Had my left hip replaced last fall so keeping the kinks out is important as I really notice the "old" hip now!  The new hip is fantastic!

I need a recommendation for a water filter.  All I have now is a Steripen and I don't think that will be sufficient.

Really looking forward to this and will follow this trip up with another visit to BiBe in December or February hopefully to a trail I've not tried before.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: horns93 on September 07, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
I have a Corus. I love it.

Right now I am mulling over a 6- or 7-night return for a Quemada Loop.  I'd love an extended hike with only myself for my 50th. I am considering a new pack; I think I want an Osprey Exos 58 for trips that I do not have to haul camp for 3 - Osprey's AG system is tops.

I went with the Corus too. I'm just waiting on Amazon to deliver.

I've used the Exos 48 for the past year and really like it. I can pack a week's worth of gear with a total pack weight of just under 20 lbs, not including food and water.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: horns93 on September 07, 2017, 05:43:18 PM

I need a recommendation for a water filter.  All I have now is a Steripen and I don't think that will be sufficient.

Really looking forward to this and will follow this trip up with another visit to BiBe in December or February hopefully to a trail I've not tried before.

I've used the Sawyer Mini with great success. It's inexpensive and lightweight. You can use it to drink straight from the source or collect using the Sawyer pouch and filtering that way. I definitely recommend buying a 64 oz pouch or two instead of using the 16 oz that comes with it.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Jalco on September 07, 2017, 10:05:45 PM

I need a recommendation for a water filter.  All I have now is a Steripen and I don't think that will be sufficient.

Really looking forward to this and will follow this trip up with another visit to BiBe in December or February hopefully to a trail I've not tried before.

I've used the Sawyer Mini with great success. It's inexpensive and lightweight. You can use it to drink straight from the source or collect using the Sawyer pouch and filtering that way. I definitely recommend buying a 64 oz pouch or two instead of using the 16 oz that comes with it.

I have the Platypus Gravity Works, a bag system, that we used on the ERL last year.  I agree with buying the larger bag to save trips to the stream. 
I also have the Sawyer Squeeze system, which comes with a filter and two "soft" bottles (Platypus type).  You screw the filter onto the bottle and drink straight from it.  Also has a tube that allows you to drink straight from the source.  On solo trips this is probably what I'll be using.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: PacingTheCage on September 08, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
Thank you both for the filter recommendations!
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: House Made of Dawn on September 08, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Hiking the OML with my youngest son and his father-in-law in November.  It will be my son's first hike and first trip to BiBe. This will be our 1st OML hike........

.....I need a recommendation for a water filter.  All I have now is a Steripen and I don't think that will be sufficient.

First of all, kudos for wanting to filter water and not just depend upon caching/carrying it all. I've never cached water for any of the several OML's I've done. I've always found plenty of water in the natural sources (Boot Canyon, Upper Juniper Spring, Dodson and Adler Springs and others south of that, and of course, Fresno Creek).  I love pulling my water from the landscape instead of bringing it in from 'civilization'.  Very satisfying.

Personally, PTC, I think the Steripen would do you just fine as long as you have good batteries.  It's fast and effective. Other than Dodson Spring, the sources are usually clear and clean. Sometimes in a dry spell, the pools in Boot Canyon can get a little scummy, but using a bandanna as a prefilter can work wonders. I usually just pill my water, so I don't actually use a Steripen, but I've always been impressed by them when I see them in use. I do, however, often carry a Sawyer Mini which others have mentioned. It's fantastic. Weighs almost nothing; doesn't take up much space. You can use it as a squeeze filter with almost any standard small-mouth bladder (e.g., Platypus, etc.) or you can use it as a stand-alone filter, which is how I use it. One trick that I've found handy is to bring along a 4- or 5- or 6-foot length of lightweight tubing which you can attach to the input of the Mini. That way, you can take advantage of any little pothole or spring you find along the way without even taking off your pack or stooping down. Just connect the filter to the tubing, drop the tubing into the water, and drink while standing. This has worked great for me. And with the long tubing, I've been able to access surprisingly large pools of mostly hidden water tucked deep down inside cracks of rock where the sun can't evaporate it.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: PacingTheCage on September 08, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
Thank you for sharing that recommendation.  I'm really looking forward to this trip!
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on September 08, 2017, 11:22:37 PM
One trick that I've found handy is to bring along a 4- or 5- or 6-foot length of lightweight tubing which you can attach to the input of the Mini. That way, you can take advantage of any little pothole or spring you find along the way without even taking off your pack or stooping down. Just connect the filter to the tubing, drop the tubing into the water, and drink while standing. This has worked great for me. And with the long tubing, I've been able to access surprisingly large pools of mostly hidden water tucked deep down inside cracks of rock where the sun can't evaporate it

That is one high-quality pro tip.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: House Made of Dawn on September 09, 2017, 12:03:16 AM
One trick that I've found handy is to bring along a 4- or 5- or 6-foot length of lightweight tubing which you can attach to the input of the Mini. That way, you can take advantage of any little pothole or spring you find along the way without even taking off your pack or stooping down. Just connect the filter to the tubing, drop the tubing into the water, and drink while standing. This has worked great for me. And with the long tubing, I've been able to access surprisingly large pools of mostly hidden water tucked deep down inside cracks of rock where the sun can't evaporate it

That is one high-quality pro tip.

Thanks, dprather!


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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Homer67 on September 10, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
I dig the Sawyer Mini and I use them.  I do miss the greater powers of the old pump filters.  We were 6 days on the trail when we reached SW4 last April and I had to rely on run-off pools along the upper part of Boot Canyon trail.  The water was basically tea, tasting and reflecting the color of the dry grass around even after filtered.  It tasted somewhat like jasmine tea.  I did not know West Texas Fescue made such good tea! No one got sick and it paired well with a lemon-lime gatorade packet.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/34270730825_70cab0aa26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Udosip)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Udosip) by Superhomer670 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/74789137@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: House Made of Dawn on September 10, 2017, 03:11:46 PM
I dig the Sawyer Mini and I use them.  I do miss the greater powers of the old pump filters.  We were 6 days on the trail when we reached SW4 last April and I had to rely on run-off pools along the upper part of Boot Canyon trail.  The water was basically tea, tasting and reflecting the color of the dry grass around even after filtered.  It tasted somewhat like jasmine tea.  I did not know West Texas Fescue made such good tea! No one got sick and it paired well with a lemon-lime gatorade packet.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/34270730825_70cab0aa26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Udosip)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Udosip) by Superhomer670 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/74789137@N07/), on Flickr

Hahahaha! Rock on, Homer67.


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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Slimkitty on September 10, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
Well, I've just finished Twin Peaks: The Return.  I don't know how, but that HAD to have prepared me in some way. 


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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Homer67 on September 11, 2017, 11:09:54 AM
I will usually engage in some movie prep for my adventures. I like Barbarosa, since some filmed in Big Bend, Avatar and The Big Lebowski. Lonesome Dove is a good one too.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: fullmetaljacket6793 on June 20, 2018, 08:22:45 AM
Since we are on this topic about getting ready for backpacking season does anyone have a recommendation for a extra large but lightweight backpack.


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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: mule ears on June 20, 2018, 08:31:43 AM
That could be a long discussion.  What do you mean by lightweight?  How much volume?  What kind of loads/ weight do you want to carry?

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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: elhombre on June 20, 2018, 09:35:25 AM
http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/general-outdoor-stuff-camping-equipment/divide-4500-ultralight-backpack-first-use/

4 trips under my belt with this pack, and it has not caused me any problems at all.  Mostly carried in the 30-35# range.  As heavy as #45 at the start of one trip.  No regrets.  Big enough to swallow up a bear container at the Grand Canyon too.

Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: fullmetaljacket6793 on June 21, 2018, 06:52:15 AM
Well elhombre....I think we have a winner. I really like that pack and if you say that its good then ill take your word for it and buy one myself. That is the size i was looking for and light to boot for the capacity that it holds. One more thing. When i was in the Marine Corps infantry when we were in the field we never used tents. I guess it was to save weight. Since then i have never used a tent. I just have a sleeping pad and a ranger roll. A ranger roll is basically a blanket and a poncho. How do y’all guys feel about that? Have y’all slept on the ground with no problems or do y’all pack the extra weight around?


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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: mule ears on June 21, 2018, 09:19:15 AM
The only other pack I would recommend it the Elemental Horizons Kalais or Aquillo (bigger) as long as you don't want to carry more than 45 pounds or so.  But fit is everything so best to try them on, order and return if necessary.  Some folks have had trouble getting the shoulder harness adjusted for them for the Seek Outside packs and el hombre had trouble getting the Elemental Horizon packs adjusted right for him.

Here is my piece on such packs (https://40yearsofwalking.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/the-search-for-the-perfect-pack/).

As to a tent, I haven't carried one since 2002 and in the desert in over 20 years.  Ground cloth, pad, sleeping bag, carry a tarp just in case. 
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Casa Grande on June 21, 2018, 10:01:22 PM


As to a tent, I haven't carried one since 2002 and in the desert in over 20 years.  Ground cloth, pad, sleeping bag, carry a tarp just in case.

Although I'm relatively new to this idea,  I completely agree.  I haven't camped inside of a tent in three years.  Just too dang stuffy for me.  Give me the open night air!  It's wonderful.   I'm a believer in going tentless! Particularly in the summer.

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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Al on June 22, 2018, 08:48:20 AM
Back in my hiking days I never carried a tent just a tarp in case of rain and to provide shade at base camp. A quarter century ago a shot of our camp behind El Pico.

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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: RichardM on June 22, 2018, 10:52:28 AM
Although I'm relatively new to this idea,  I completely agree.  I haven't camped inside of a tent in three years.  Just too dang stuffy for me.  Give me the open night air!  It's wonderful.   I'm a believer in going tentless! Particularly in the summer.
Has it really been 3 years since the 10th Anniversary Bender? I seem to recall not only were you in a tent, but it had a heater!
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: presidio on June 22, 2018, 10:56:16 AM
Although I'm relatively new to this idea,  I completely agree.  I haven't camped inside of a tent in three years.  Just too dang stuffy for me.  Give me the open night air!  It's wonderful.   I'm a believer in going tentless! Particularly in the summer.
Has it really been 3 years since the 10th Anniversary Bender? I seem to recall not only were you in a tent, but it had a heater!

 :s_laugh:
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Casa Grande on June 22, 2018, 11:43:58 AM
Although I'm relatively new to this idea,  I completely agree.  I haven't camped inside of a tent in three years.  Just too dang stuffy for me.  Give me the open night air!  It's wonderful.   I'm a believer in going tentless! Particularly in the summer.
Has it really been 3 years since the 10th Anniversary Bender? I seem to recall not only were you in a tent, but it had a heater!
You are correct!    I was camping with my son.  He's not much into tentless camping and the warmth was way too inticing for me.

But,  it was during that trip that I was inspired by ME and Robert when they were sprawled out on that cold slab on the eve of their tentless trip out on the  Sierra Quemada. 

But,  since that trip,  I haven't used a tent at all.  Between, my countless Boy Scout camping trips and Bend Trips, I don't tent any longer.

So,  I stand corrected,  it has been 2 years,  5 months and 25 days ago.

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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: RichardM on June 22, 2018, 02:25:27 PM
Although I'm relatively new to this idea,  I completely agree.  I haven't camped inside of a tent in three years.  Just too dang stuffy for me.  Give me the open night air!  It's wonderful.   I'm a believer in going tentless! Particularly in the summer.
Has it really been 3 years since the 10th Anniversary Bender? I seem to recall not only were you in a tent, but it had a heater!
You are correct!    I was camping with my son.  He's not much into tentless camping and the warmth was way too inticing for me.

But,  it was during that trip that I was inspired by ME and Robert when they were sprawled out on that cold slab on the eve of their tentless trip out on the  Sierra Quemada. 

But,  since that trip,  I haven't used a tent at all.  Between, my countless Boy Scout camping trips and Bend Trips, I don't tent any longer.

So,  I stand corrected,  it has been 2 years,  5 months and 25 days ago.
Well, that almost rounds up to 3.  :icon_lol: I haven't slept outside a tent in decades, and then it was in a hammock.  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Al on June 22, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
I have to admit that, a couple of years ago, I bought a Big Agnes tent since we are only doing primitive camping.  It stays in its bag but if it looks like rain up it goes.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on June 22, 2018, 05:54:31 PM
Ima weenie.  I always sleep in a tent.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Flash on June 22, 2018, 09:31:48 PM
Ima weenie.  I always sleep in a tent.
Sure love my tent when that summer thunderstorm lets loose just as the tents up and I'm inside!  :great:
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: Casa Grande on June 22, 2018, 10:36:52 PM
Ima weenie.  I always sleep in a tent.
Sure love my tent when that summer thunderstorm lets loose just as the tents up and I'm inside!  :great:
Touché.

I have been rained on and that sucks.

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Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: dprather on June 23, 2018, 01:11:31 AM
I am gratified by the resuscitation of this thread.
Title: Re: What are you doing RIGHT NOW to get ready for Big Bend Backpacking Season?
Post by: GaryF on June 23, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
I most always carry a tent, but I've been known to just use it as a ground cloth and sleep on top when conditions (insects and weather) are conducive.