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Windmills in Big Bend

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peggy

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 09:40:45 PM »
pics of windmill @ Dripping Spring:

http://www.virtualbigbend.com/tour/dripping_spring/

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/66838154

Is this really a windmill?  It sits directly over the Dripping Spring 'cave' if I'm not mistaken.   I was being hurried along when I found the "spring" a few weeks back and can't be 100% sure of it, but I think it is above the spring.   

I would guess it to have more likely been a rope/bucket system of some sort.

Actually, I'm sure you're right. I was looking at the pics as I posted them thinking...that really doesn't look like windmill remnants.   :icon_redface:



Looks like a shaft to me, but I don't know anything about windmills, or how they work.
The ring in the center of the pic capped a steel pipe. Inside the pipe was a smaller diameter pipe.
Both pipes had been filled with rocks & debris too within ~a foot of the top of the shaft.
These casings were too small to accommodate a bucket.
So again, I'm ignorant of windmills, but this looked like what I think a windmill set-up looks like.
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peggy

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 09:42:15 PM »
There are substantial windmill ruins at Roys Peak Camp on the Old Ore Road.



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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 12:09:03 PM »


The Hannold Trading Post.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 01:37:12 PM »
There are substantial windmill ruins at Roys Peak Camp on the Old Ore Road.





Ohhhh, this is an interesting windmill! Kinda looks like an early Dempster windmill (Beatrice, NEB) with a one piece hub...but it could also be a Woodmanse mill made in Freeport, IL. I'll have to get my literature out and look closer, but if I had to bet, it's be a woodmanse.




The Hannold Trading Post.

This is very interesting, but I don't think it's a windmill or windmill part, not sure what it is.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 01:48:22 PM »
Thanks for all the hints on where to find windmills! I sure appreciate it and they are going to my 'to hike to list'.


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peggy

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 03:20:54 PM »
There are substantial windmill ruins at Roys Peak Camp on the Old Ore Road.





Ohhhh, this is an interesting windmill! Kinda looks like an early Dempster windmill (Beatrice, NEB) with a one piece hub...but it could also be a Woodmanse mill made in Freeport, IL. I'll have to get my literature out and look closer, but if I had to bet, it's be a woodmanse.




The Hannold Trading Post.

This is very interesting, but I don't think it's a windmill or windmill part, not sure what it is.

"STOVER MFG & ENG CO" and  "FREEPORT ILL"  are embossed on the hub in picture #1.

Maybe #2 was Albert Hannold's lawn sprinkler.   :icon_wink:

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2013, 05:33:40 PM »
pics of windmill @ Dripping Spring:

http://www.virtualbigbend.com/tour/dripping_spring/

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/66838154

Is this really a windmill?  It sits directly over the Dripping Spring 'cave' if I'm not mistaken.   I was being hurried along when I found the "spring" a few weeks back and can't be 100% sure of it, but I think it is above the spring.   

I would guess it to have more likely been a rope/bucket system of some sort.

Actually, I'm sure you're right. I was looking at the pics as I posted them thinking...that really doesn't look like windmill remnants.   :icon_redface:



Looks like a shaft to me, but I don't know anything about windmills, or how they work.
The ring in the center of the pic capped a steel pipe. Inside the pipe was a smaller diameter pipe.
Both pipes had been filled with rocks & debris too within ~a foot of the top of the shaft.
These casings were too small to accommodate a bucket.
So again, I'm ignorant of windmills, but this looked like what I think a windmill set-up looks like.

Hard for me to tell for sure from a picture, but looks like a water well head. I definitely have this on my list now.

I wrote a really long post, hit send and lost it to the ether.  :eusa_doh: Here's essentially the same post, but a lot shorter.

Basically a windmill works by turning a rotary motion into an up and down motion. A windmill is the direct replacement for an old fashion hand pump. So instead of you standing there pumping the hand pump the windmill does the work. The 'pump' is down at the bottom of the well and is called a cylinder.

The bigger the wheel (or fan) of a windmill means the deeper the windmill can pump. Most windmills that people see are 8' diameter. Give or take, an 8' windmill can pump down to about 180'. Given the same parameters, a 16' windmill can pump down to 920'.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2013, 05:37:32 PM »
8' diameter Aermotor on a 33' tower next to a rock tank.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2013, 05:39:44 PM »
16' diameter Aermotor on a 33' tower next to a steel tank.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2013, 05:45:46 PM »
This 16' Fairbury windmill is laying at the base of the 16' Aermotor. From the size of the mesquite tree that is growing up inside of it, I'd say it's been there for a long time.

My guess is the Fairbury originally stood over the well and when it wore out or was damaged by a storm, it was taken down and then the Aermotor was put up in it's place.

This is one of my favorite finds in the park.


Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2013, 11:22:54 PM »
There is one in BBRSP at, I think, Papalote encino (going by memory). That's a designated camp site. I have some good sunrise pictures of it.
It is semi-functional; it will turn in a high wind, but not without substantial complaint, to wit, very load creaking and groaning. It is generally seized up.
At least as of a couple of years ago.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2013, 11:28:18 AM »
I remember that site.  My friends and I decided to camp elsewhere due to all the noise.
Wake me when it's time to go.

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 08:16:56 PM »
If you walk through Slickrock Canyon you'll find the remnant of a windmill and well.
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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2013, 08:20:34 AM »
If you walk through Slickrock Canyon you'll find the remnant of a windmill and well.

I'm not familiar with slickrock Canyon, where is that?

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Re: Windmills in Big Bend
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2013, 11:07:35 AM »
slick rock is really nice. you park at a bridge on the main park road then take the wash north, then connect to another wash. when you go though the canyon, there are a few neat things back there.

Its a 10 mile round trip hike

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