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A new map and a request for information.

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Offline Ay Chihuahua!

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 07:32:08 PM »
Viper,

I don't know.  Things may not be moving at the rate I thought they were.  I went back and re-read last Saturday's article in the Houston Chronicle and counted a lot more of the word "will" (as opposed to "is") than I remembered from the first read.  It just seems a little odd to me that TP&W would start promoting the park more than a month before things were ready to roll.  I can, however, see how target dates could be missed.

I was really looking forward to a nice long solo hike out there from Christmas to New Years.
We'll see, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 08:25:16 PM »
i just hope it's open by new years, i have a lot of friends excited about a trip and i don't want to disappoint them

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 12:50:21 PM »
I've been told there is a gentleman working for the park who is currently GPSing all the springs in the park.  I'm hoping to get in touch with him this week.
When I've checked in at Barton Warnock the guys there always acted like the springs are a big secret and they don't want anybody to know there are reliable water sources. When I checked in for 4 days on the Rancherias Loop they made me tell them I was carrying 4 gallons of water (yeah, right!). They also said I was supposed to stay on the trail (yeah, right!). I know of another backpacker who couldn't get useful information from those guys. It seems like they don't trust the visitors to go out there, have a good time and survive.

So if they GPS all the springs, what do you have to do to get the information? Is there a way to win the trust of these guys?

The guy you were dealing with at the Warnock does not work for the TPWL any longer.  Give Laird, David or Rod a chance again.  Think you will be impressed.

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SHANEA

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2007, 03:06:31 PM »
I made a call to BBRSP yesterday and all of the new areas are open.  They have also dispensed with the locked gate at the "main entrance" to the park complex way down Casa Piedra road. 

On a related note,

Questions raised after burros killed at Big Bend Ranch State Park

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Offline Ay Chihuahua!

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 08:40:47 AM »
Yep...finally made contact and it looks like I'll be be hiking the the Bofecillos for several days and then maybe car camping near the Solitario for a night.  Maybe I'll see some of you guys out there.   

Perhaps I could lure unsuspecting BBC'ers into fireside chats (lies) about the time I hiked the OML with nothing but flip-flops and a bandana, or the time I travled for a week with a pack of coyotes, or the time I hiked up Casa Grande on my hands, or....

Would this work for bait?



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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 09:52:21 AM »
Yep...finally made contact and it looks like I'll be be hiking the the Bofecillos for several days and then maybe car camping near the Solitario for a night.  Maybe I'll see some of you guys out there.   

Perhaps I could lure unsuspecting BBC'ers into fireside chats (lies) about the time I hiked the OML with nothing but flip-flops and a bandana, or the time I travled for a week with a pack of coyotes, or the time I hiked up Casa Grande on my hands, or....

Would this work for bait?




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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2007, 10:05:29 AM »
They have also dispensed with the locked gate at the "main entrance" to the park complex way down Casa Piedra road.

WOO-HOO! My only trip to BBRSP was thwarted by that stupid gate and a bad combination to its stupid lock. I just might have to go back for a visit sometime.
Jeff Blaylock
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splendor and the complicated grandeur of Big Bend will still be here. Waiting for us."--Ed Abbey

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2007, 01:50:05 PM »
While I like scotch very much, I like older scotch more in the 15-18 range. 
Visiting BB since 1966, nothing like being lost and finding heaven.

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SHANEA

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2007, 04:23:25 PM »
While I like scotch very much, I like older scotch more in the 15-18 range. 

 :eusa_angel:

IMHO - Free scotch is the BEST SCOTCH!   :azn:

Ten year old will be just fine with me.  On my way...

If I should be at BBRSP at the same time, be sure and stop by the camp for some libations.  Trade you a drink of scotch for a shower.  R2D2 is equipped with a hot shower...   :icon_redface:

BTW - no pictures allowed in the camp area.  Wouldn't want Ranger Rick to see a picture of a generator and assume we had used it in the no generator zone...   :cool: :cool: :cool:
« Last Edit: December 09, 2007, 04:25:46 PM by SHANEA »

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2007, 07:08:39 PM »
On a related note,

Questions raised after burros killed at Big Bend Ranch State Park

as a follow on to this story, this appeared in the Terlingua City Limits Yahoo Group.
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Wild Burros are being shot
 
Texas Parks & Wildlife Department (TPWD) has asked Peaceful Valley for assistance in removing the wild burros from the Big Bend State Park near the Mexican Border. A recent news story has circulated on the Internet describing the Park's current shooting policy. 18 wild burros have been shot in the last few months. The Directors of the TPWD have tried helicopter roundups in the past with no luck. The area is too big and the terrain is too rough. Our method of baiting, waiting and trapping is ideal for this situation. Many of the burros in this area have migrated into the park from Mexico and this is a major concern for the US Department of Agriculture. No one knows what diseases or parasites the burros may have. The government puts all of its "burro money" into the BLM program. This leaves nothing on the table for the other agencies. They are mandated to reduce the population and have no choice other than to shoot them. Peaceful Valley must usually fund these projects out of pocket. PVDR has a management plan that includes castration and selective removal. With better management, there would not be a need to constantly bring in large burro herds form the wild. In order to implement our plan, we must take on these types of projects to prove our worth to the Federal, State and Local agencies. As always, the public has voiced their opposition to the killing of the burros but that fact remains that without the help of Peaceful Valley, the TPWD will have no other alternative. This program is going to be very costly. We need everyone's help!
 
Our Plan
 
Mark Meyers will be given a tour of the park on Jan. 14 by TPWD Regional Director Mike Hill. After familiarizing himself with the burro herds, patterns of travel and watering holes, Mark will setup a capture area. The capture area will be baited with feed and salt to attract the burros.
 
Stage 2
Once the burros are comfortable with the trap area, the trap will be set. Up to 20 burros will be caught during each capture. Once captured, the burros will be taken to our Miles, TX facility for quarantine, blood and fecal testing and full medical evaluation.
 
Stage 3
Trained volunteers will begin working with the burros in order to make them adoptable to the public.
 
Please contact Mark Meyers at mark@donkeyrescue. org for more information

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Offline Ay Chihuahua!

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2007, 05:29:16 PM »
This last session of the Texas Legislature HB 12 was passed.  HB 12 dealt with funding Texas parks and historical sites.  I like Texas parks, so I figured I'd give this bill a read. 

Section 15 of the bill caught my eye.  Section 15 adds language to allow a TPWD employee rendering a special customer service to an individual or group to accept gratuities.

I think its interesting that this was written into law.  Does this mean Texas parks will be offering more customer service?  Does anybody have any insight on why this language was in the bill?

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So as not to hijack my own thread...one more question to sort of tie it back in with BBRSP.

Do you think the above language would allow me to slip a ranger a couple of 20 spots to park my truck at a chosen trailhead while I'm out backpacking?
« Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 05:34:54 PM by Ay Chihuahua! »

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2007, 05:43:08 PM »


EDIT:
So as not to hijack my own thread...one more question to sort of tie it back in with BBRSP.

Do you think the above language would allow me to slip a ranger a couple of 20 spots to park my truck at a chosen trailhead while I'm out backpacking?
that would be fabulous  :eusa_clap:

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SHANEA

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2007, 06:44:26 PM »
Howdy.  I do believe you need to read the full text of the enrolled version for clarification before you attempt to offer a gratuity to a LE or interp ranger as it might land you in hot water or the hoosegow...

Enrolled Version

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2007, 08:01:45 PM »
I am able to suffer cheap scotch for free.
Visiting BB since 1966, nothing like being lost and finding heaven.

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Re: A new map and a request for information.
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2007, 10:06:50 PM »
Howdy.  I do believe you need to read the full text of the enrolled version for clarification before you attempt to offer a gratuity to a LE or interp ranger as it might land you in hot water or the hoosegow...

Enrolled Version
OK...I did that and nothing changed.  It still says that they can accept a tip.  Is there something else I missed?  Do you know why they wrote that into law?

 


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