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BBRSP East Entrance

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 10:10:30 PM »
The first time I drove highway 170 from its intersection with 118 to Presidio was in May of 1979.  The latest time was last week when I drove from the same intersection west to the teepees rest area and back.  If there is a legal road into the state park anywhere on the between the teepees and the 170/118 intersection, I missed it. I hope there is one and I just missed it while gawking at the scenery.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2009, 10:32:36 PM »
OMF, it was all private land until 1988 and took awhile to develop. There is a dirt road that comes in from the east just north of Lajitas, I've been down it, but it has been blocked off.  There is talk of unblocking it, which I thought had occurred but it appears I am probably wrong, for now.  I understand it is in the works to open the road from the "east entrance" which will really open the state park up.  All the folks that come to the national park would have much more ready access, which all things considered, would be a very good thing.  I've been in the park when my buds and I are the only members of the public enjoying this wonderful resource.  The park is very underutilized.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 11:37:13 PM »
Thank you for the information.  I hope the road from Lajitas does get opened.  It would be nice to get into the park from there.  It seems like most of the visitors come from the east so another entry point would be wonderful.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 11:32:51 AM »
Has anyone entered the park from the north?  US 67 south out of Marfa to Ranch Road 169? On the official state highway map RR 169 just sort of ends above the park, but I know I have seen other maps that show either it or a spur off of it entering the park from the north, near the park headquartres.

Has anyone actually used this route?  What can you tell us about it?
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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 11:58:04 PM »
RR 169 is also known as Casa Piedras RD, we have driven it from FM170 to US 67 and it is gravel until you get past the SP.  It was a decent gravel road, washboardy in places, but easily traveled by any kind of vehicle. 

We were at the SP in April and at that time the plans for an eastern entrance to the Sauceda were on hold, apparently there are a couple of places that would be tough to put the road due to potential serious washouts.  The last I heard, they are still cleaning up and making repairs to the river campgrounds from the flood.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2009, 02:09:03 AM »
RR 169 is also known as Casa Piedras RD, we have driven it from FM170 to US 67 and it is gravel until you get past the SP.  It was a decent gravel road, washboardy in places, but easily traveled by any kind of vehicle. 

We were at the SP in April and at that time the plans for an eastern entrance to the Sauceda were on hold, apparently there are a couple of places that would be tough to put the road due to potential serious washouts.  The last I heard, they are still cleaning up and making repairs to the river campgrounds from the flood.

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MrsCookie, thank you very much. I know it is in the works and was hopeful they had pulled it off. It will be perhaps the most important improvement made to the park since its inception.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2009, 04:41:36 PM »
RR 169 is also known as Casa Piedras RD, we have driven it from FM170 to US 67 and it is gravel until you get past the SP.  It was a decent gravel road, washboardy in places, but easily traveled by any kind of vehicle.  

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RR 169 connects with FM 170???  Where?
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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2009, 04:59:36 PM »
You turn onto Casa Piedra Road about 5 miles east of Fort Leaton.   After you are on it for a while, it has signage that it is RR 169, I'm not sure exactly where the name Casa Piedra is dropped and it is just RR  169, but it is someplace near the old town of Casa Piedra.

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2009, 06:13:01 PM »
Been up that way several times.  You can actually kinda circumnavigate all the way up to Shafter.  However, DHS/CBP has road sensors all over the place and you will probably encounter them in their vehicles or whirlybirds - wondering if you are trying to circumnavigate their checkpoing Charlies...

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2009, 07:16:22 PM »
Just looking at the map it looks like RR 169 joins 67 about 3 miles south of the checkpoint. You can use Google maps and follow the road all the way up north. But going back to topic, I'd be interested in an eastern entrance from Lajitas also. 170 is a nice road but sure is a big detour to get to BBRSP interior from BIBE.
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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2009, 01:05:02 PM »
If they do make a road entrance from the Lajitas side, it's going to take some road building. That's assuming they're coming up fresno creek. There is a small (~4ft) waterfall near madrid falls that the road jumps up out of the creek bed. it's overgrown (can't even follow it) and there are several large washouts that cross the old roadbed. Also, the road up and out from the canyon to the headquarters is quite rough, so it won't be as nice of a drive as the normal western entrance.

I'm not sure where all the property lines are in relation to the roads, but there are nice roads from lajitas all the way up the creek to the falls, then above that it's not bad until the climb out of fresno canyon. I'm sort of hoping they don't plow a road through there, Fresno Canyon is nice and secluded as it is now :o

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2009, 05:18:16 PM »
According to TPWD, the East Entrance is now open.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/big_bend_ranch/map/

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Directions: The west entrance at Fort Leaton State Historic Site is located 4 miles southeast of Presidio, on the River Road (FM 170). The east entrance at Barton Warnock Environmental Education Center is located 1 mile east of Lajitas on the River Road (FM 170).

Watchthatpage spotted it.

Also it appears there is a new campsite at "B"




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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2009, 05:25:23 PM »
According to TPWD, the East Entrance is now open.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/big_bend_ranch/map/

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Big Bend Ranch State Park Maps

Directions: The west entrance at Fort Leaton State Historic Site is located 4 miles southeast of Presidio, on the River Road (FM 170). The east entrance at Barton Warnock Environmental Education Center is located 1 mile east of Lajitas on the River Road (FM 170).

Watchthatpage spotted it.

Also it appears there is a new campsite at "B"
That's the same thing it's said about the "east entrance" for a long time.
The east entrance at Barton Warnock Environmental Education Center is located 1 mile east of Lajitas on the River Road (FM 170).

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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2009, 03:12:56 PM »
This east entrance is a trail, hikers, bikers, and horsers, not for cars.
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Re: BBRSP East Entrance
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2009, 03:51:03 PM »
170 runs through the park.  It is the east entrance.

 


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