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Bbrsp First trip few questions

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Offline Tanked Up

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Bbrsp First trip few questions
« on: March 15, 2018, 09:38:23 PM »
Hi all. In Planning stage of 5-6 days in big bend ranch. Dates April 29-may 5. Just enjoy getting away and self reliant. Plan on doing nowhere,casa Ramon, solitatio and just roam around in between. Any route planning or tips or destinations in between appreciated. I will be headed there from rockport tx so the closest point of entry for me is Barton Warnock. Once there I can get camping permits and move on. How far is it to get to off pavement? Plan get there by noon want to get camp out in unmaintained. HaHa. I said I want to get away.

Guess I should say I am driving a 87 k5 Blazer (full size blazer) small off-road trailer. I built by me from ground up, plenty spare parts and know how to use them.  Guess I add pic if I figure it out. .. Not worried about scratches, dents, etc.

Have tons of other question rolling in my brain but I start with first ones. Any suggestion appreciated.

Nice site you have here

Thanks Tom

(well guess pic help would be good too. HaHa. Can't figure out how to post one.)


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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 11:15:09 PM »
All questions about BBRSP are answered in two words; (i) Ranger, and (ii) Tim.

This is no overstatement.  Ranger Tim knows BBRSP and he is generously willing to help.
Leave "quit" at the car.  Embrace the trail as your friend.  Expect to enjoy yourself, and to be amazed.

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Offline Txlj

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 03:01:21 AM »
Enjoy. There's a ton to see and do at the state park.

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 08:27:41 AM »
Ranger Tim and others can help you out but I can tell you one thing right off the bat, it's a LONG ways.  If you plan to be out doing things by noon, you gotta' understand it's far and slow going.  Barton Warnock is the east entrance but to get into the interior of the park, you still have to drive to the west end.  Once there, you'll get your wish of being off pavement, as it's a long washboard road just to get to the entrance sign.  You'll be looking at close to 11 hours from Rockport. NOT trying to discourage you at all, just consider your first day is almost all travel.

Oh, I'm a neighbor in Corpus, glad to see Rockport coming back so strong!  Recent Oyster Fest was a blast and lunch last Sunday at the Boiling Pot, we support you!

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 02:56:35 PM »
There is a section in the forums for BBRSP, I think Ranger Tim frequents that area a lot.
Casa Ramon is in the "Most Remote Section" of the park. It's my next destination too. We cruised around the park 2 years ago hitting Nowhere, the mines, then the trail from Javelin Pens to Guale Mesa road and the Oso Loop.  (I think it's called the Rancherias Loop).
Like stated previously, expect to travel slowly in the park. The speed limit is 25 MPH and when the state police are patrolling, they enforce it, plus the distances are pretty far.
Take spare gas! You probably know that since you have the trailer and camp with your rig.
If there is anything else I can help with, msg me here or email me at blindwilly at G mail dot com.
Here's the kmz file from my last trip. You can open it with Google maps to explore.
Here's a slideshow I threw together from that trip:

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2018, 08:05:39 PM »
Well I guess my first response didn't work. Probably users failure.

Hey all thanks for the replies. I work on crewboats in offshore oilfield so I'm slow to respond at times. No service at times.

Dprather. HaHa. Yes Ranger Tim is wealth of info. See lots of posts by him and very informative. . Thanks.

Txlj. I have been checking out trips others have had there. Looks like good getaway. Thanks.

Hang10er. Thanks for answering.. It looked on map if I stopped Barton Wornock I would still have to make round to west entrance. You verified that. I'm not in any hurry. My rig, as built, is a 60-65 mph highway truck. HaHa. If I make 11 hours I will be happy.  I plan to leave Friday night after work or Saturday morning stay somewhere in between and roll into park on Sunday. Figure if there any people there maybe they weekenders and check out.  Then spend 5-6 days just roam around.  3-4 places I would like too see, rest is just relax and see the sites. Just roam and enjoy no cell service.

Howdy neighbor.  Thanks. It's getting back together. Just will take time. If you ever go PINS look me up. I spend time there. It's close and quite when you get far enough down. My rig different than most there. Can't miss it. HaHa.

Blindwilly. Hey thanks I will move my questions on to bbrsp part of forum. Remote that's what interest me about Casa Ramon. Park map shows camps at Casa Ramon and at Popaloe De La Sierra, but I can't find any information on them. Can you tell me if they are actually there? HaHA. I always have spare gas. My rig not great mileage but it's not terrible. But always try take more of everything than I think I need. I have seen you video in my reasearch part of this trip. Good one. Also downloaded you kmz file to my Gaia app.

Thanks again. Looking forward to getting out there.



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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 09:08:36 AM »
So many questions,.... but we have answers. I would suggest giving us a call so that we can address your concerns in turn. 432-424-3327. The only thing that I will address here is the fact that you are planning on getting out here at the beginning of the hot season, which typically starts at the end of April. You will find more comfortable temps in the high country around Sauceda, but it will still be hot. If it gets to be too much you can rent the bunkhouse for a night or two to break things up and get in a cold shower. Also, regarding the BBRSP panhandle area,  I would suggest focusing on the interior for this first trip and coming back to explore the panhandle during cooler weather, especially if you are going to be solo.
"The greatest happiness possible to man ... is to become civilized, to know the pageant of the past, to love the beautiful,... and then, retaining animal instincts and appetites, to live in the wilderness"
- J. Frank Dobie

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 02:41:17 PM »

Blindwilly. Hey thanks I will move my questions on to bbrsp part of forum. Remote that's what interest me about Casa Ramon. Park map shows camps at Casa Ramon and at Popaloe De La Sierra, but I can't find any information on them. Can you tell me if they are actually there? HaHA. I always have spare gas. My rig not great mileage but it's not terrible. But always try take more of everything than I think I need. I have seen you video in my reasearch part of this trip. Good one. Also downloaded you kmz file to my Gaia app.

Thanks again. Looking forward to getting out there.
As far as I know, the campsite at Casa Ramon is there. Last I heard, there is even a working outhouse of sorts. 
I just looked on google Earth and zoomed into Papalote de la Sierra.  Looks like there is a clearing there and not much else.   Looks like my kind of place.  :)

I'm attaching another KMZ file that has Casa Ramon and Papalote de la sierra on it.  This is one a friend passed on to me, I haven't been to every place on here, I think she made this at home for her next trip.

"No matter where you go, there you are"
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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 03:31:54 AM »
Ranger Tim, Thank you for all the help you provide to us.

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 06:58:38 AM »
My last two visits I entered by coming down 169 from Marfa and checking in at Sauceda. This seems somehow shorter and more direct. There are a couple of confusing intersections but the homemade signage along the way is reliable, but Id bring a good map or atlas.  Last time I cut across on Botello road which was fun and interesting. 

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 09:12:26 AM »
"As far as I know, the campsite at Casa Ramon is there. Last I heard, there is even a working outhouse of sorts. "

Casa Ramon is there, but DO NOT bank on using that historic outhouse. I can't even imagine how that rescue might go down.

As far as taking 169 from Marfa goes, it is a great drive but there several unmarked turns that could prove problematic, The route through Presidio is only marginally longer and it gives you the opportunity to get some decent food and the cheapest gas in the area, as well as to check in at Fort Leaton and get a park map before you begin your adventure.  Heading through the Barton Warnock adds quite a bit of time but it is a gorgeous drive.
"The greatest happiness possible to man ... is to become civilized, to know the pageant of the past, to love the beautiful,... and then, retaining animal instincts and appetites, to live in the wilderness"
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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 03:38:50 PM »
Casa Ramon is there, but DO NOT bank on using that historic outhouse. I can't even imagine how that rescue might go down.

HAHA, duly noted! 
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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 06:47:11 PM »
I came through Presidio on the way there.  The day we were leaving, we left semi-early and took the river road (170 East) out.  That gave us ALL DAY to get home allowing us time to stop along the road and do a bit of exploring, stop and see the old movie set structures, visit the cemetery and store in Terlingua, Judge Roy Beans place in Langtry, etc.

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2018, 06:22:27 PM »
So many questions,.... but we have answers. I would suggest giving us a call so that we can address your concerns in turn. 432-424-3327. The only thing that I will address here is the fact that you are planning on getting out here at the beginning of the hot season, which typically starts at the end of April. You will find more comfortable temps in the high country around Sauceda, but it will still be hot. If it gets to be too much you can rent the bunkhouse for a night or two to break things up and get in a cold shower. Also, regarding the BBRSP panhandle area,  I would suggest focusing on the interior for this first trip and coming back to explore the panhandle during cooler weather, especially if you are going to be solo.

Thanks for the info. I will give y'all a call this week.

Tom

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Re: Bbrsp First trip few questions
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2018, 06:27:43 PM »

Blindwilly. Hey thanks I will move my questions on to bbrsp part of forum. Remote that's what interest me about Casa Ramon. Park map shows camps at Casa Ramon and at Popaloe De La Sierra, but I can't find any information on them. Can you tell me if they are actually there? HaHA. I always have spare gas. My rig not great mileage but it's not terrible. But always try take more of everything than I think I need. I have seen you video in my reasearch part of this trip. Good one. Also downloaded you kmz file to my Gaia app.

Thanks again. Looking forward to getting out there.
As far as I know, the campsite at Casa Ramon is there. Last I heard, there is even a working outhouse of sorts. 
I just looked on google Earth and zoomed into Papalote de la Sierra.  Looks like there is a clearing there and not much else.   Looks like my kind of place.  :)

I'm attaching another KMZ file that has Casa Ramon and Papalote de la sierra on it.  This is one a friend passed on to me, I haven't been to every place on here, I think she made this at home for her next trip.

HaHa. Yes my kinda place. Nothing much there.

Put that KMZ file in Gaia. Thanks. 

 


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