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BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD

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Offline Losthiker68

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BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« on: December 26, 2018, 11:54:01 AM »
With the mess at BBNP, I'm rethinking my vacation plan. I was planning 6 days at BBNP, Jan 4th-9th, an extended OML plus some dayhikes.

With that now in question, I'm trying to figure out an alternative. I'm going to extend my planned stay at Seminole to do the petroglyph tour (that wasn't originally in the cards). I'm also thinking about a day or two at Fort Davis. The rest I'd like to spend at BBRSP, However, as many have pointed out, trail info is hard to come by.

I'd like suggestions for 5 days in BBRSP. I'll be primitive camping and, though new, am prepared for some backcountry so might be willing to do a 3-day Ranchieras Loop, or, at minimum, hike up the Guale mesa for an overnight. Other ideas?
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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2018, 12:21:18 PM »
We have a lot of 2WD accessible sites but you need to contact our parks reservation desk ASAP to see what is available. With the shutdown we are going to have a lot of competition for sites,... especially 2WD accessible sites. Call (512) 389-8919 and see if you can get Ojito Adentro, Agua Adentro, Vista de Bofecillos, Papalotito Colorado, Papalote Escondido, or any of the sites along the River Road (FM170) such as Grassy Banks or Lower Madera.
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Offline Losthiker68

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2018, 12:37:07 PM »
Will do.

What about hiking/backpacking suggestions?
Take a course in good water and air; and in the eternal youth of Nature you may renew your own. Go quietly, alone; no harm will befall you. - John Muir

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2018, 01:24:36 PM »
Ranger Tim- Thanks for all the advice. Currently the state park reservation line is closed for the holidays and suppose to reopen tomorrow. We are desperately wanting to camp in the backcountry and have no reservations as we had ben planning to camp at BBNP. Would it be worth the 11-12 hour drive from Houston (leaving soon) to gamble that there might be a backcountry site available tomorrow? I drive a 2WD Tahoe that has made it down every backroad in BBNP besides Black Gap. I would appreciate any advice, as the thought of driving our 2 and 5 year old girls all the way across Texas and back without a couple days of bliss in the Bend  would kill my soul. Thank you.

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2018, 01:26:13 PM »
I realize this may be a bit late, but FWIW, there are many private campgrounds in between and near the state and national parks. Check AirBnB, and more importantly for camping under the stars, check Hipcamp. 

Rancho Topanga is a campground located between Terlingua and Lajitas with very reasonable rates, showers, and flush toilets. This campground isn't remote by any means (you can still hear Hwy 170), but it's convenient to Barton Warnock and the Ghostown. The Maverick RV campground in Lajitas may still offer tent sites. Though the sites aren't scenic, they are even closer to trailheads in BBRSP.

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2018, 02:08:52 PM »
We have a lot of 2WD accessible sites but you need to contact our parks reservation desk ASAP to see what is available. With the shutdown we are going to have a lot of competition for sites,... especially 2WD accessible sites. Call (512) 389-8919 and see if you can get Ojito Adentro, Agua Adentro, Vista de Bofecillos, Papalotito Colorado, Papalote Escondido, or any of the sites along the River Road (FM170) such as Grassy Banks or Lower Madera.

I had planned on doing the Rancherias loop Jan. 2-4, that was before this whole shutdown mess.  I like solitude when camping/hiking.  My schedule is flexible, so I assume it would be better to wait until later in January.

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2018, 11:50:38 AM »
Would it be worth the 11-12 hour drive from Houston (leaving soon) to gamble that there might be a backcountry site available tomorrow? I drive a 2WD Tahoe that has made it down every backroad in BBNP besides Black Gap."

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. There are a TON of people in town right now and BBRSP is basically full so making a drive out from Houston is definitely a big gamble. There is also the added reality that, starting tomorrow, it is going to get VERY cold down here, which should basically complicate everything. I wish I had better news, but the shutdown is having a major impact down here.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2018, 12:59:39 PM by Ranger Tim »
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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2018, 12:39:16 PM »
*sigh* I'm in a similar spot next week. Just called the reservation # and am awaiting a call back. This was supposed to be the start to a retirement celebration trip.

Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2018, 04:06:55 PM »
well I *did* get a site for four days. Not my first choice, but I may see if things change. At least i got my foot in the door and know I have a spot.

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2018, 07:40:48 PM »
well I *did* get a site for four days. Not my first choice, but I may see if things change. At least i got my foot in the door and know I have a spot.

Glad to hear it, AGC! Lemons into lemonade. Hope it turns out well.


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BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2018, 07:42:34 PM »
....and more importantly for camping under the stars, check Hipcamp. 

Cool. Never heard of it. Thanks, Twyst!!!



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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2018, 07:46:22 PM »
well I *did* get a site for four days. Not my first choice, but I may see if things change. At least i got my foot in the door and know I have a spot.

I know you will make the best of it and congratulations on the beginning of retirement!   :kaos-cactus06:
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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2018, 09:32:15 PM »
well I *did* get a site for four days. Not my first choice, but I may see if things change. At least i got my foot in the door and know I have a spot.

Glad to hear it, AGC! Lemons into lemonade. Hope it turns out well.
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Thank! I can't complain; camping out in the Big Bend area one way or the other is a fine way to pass the time.

Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2018, 09:34:24 PM »
well I *did* get a site for four days. Not my first choice, but I may see if things change. At least i got my foot in the door and know I have a spot.

I know you will make the best of it and congratulations on the beginning of retirement!   :kaos-cactus06:
Thanks! So far it's been hard work. :-\

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Re: BBRSP for 5 days - no 4WD
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2018, 11:19:04 AM »
Just got back fro a few nights in La Posta. Beautiful site, and beautiful park, I am glad to have had the chance to see it and will definitely be back.

 


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