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Well, they've probably been every year to BIBE but not the State park. I doubt detailed topos are available in Study Butte. I don't know the hike they intended to take, but this sorta reminds me of the hiker in Parent's book that died after missing the parking lot at Grapevine Hills ( I think it was).
Quote from: Quatro on October 07, 2013, 08:02:13 PMWell, they've probably been every year to BIBE but not the State park. I doubt detailed topos are available in Study Butte. I don't know the hike they intended to take, but this sorta reminds me of the hiker in Parent's book that died after missing the parking lot at Grapevine Hills ( I think it was). These kinds of situations have little to do with not being familiar with some area, or how many times they've been somewhere, but a fundamental lack of outdoor knowledge and preparedness (regardless of how "experienced" they may claim to be).These folks appear to be the classic park visitors. They are used to the handholding of state and federal park rangers, signed trails and intersections, etc. They also are good poster children for my theme that parks have seriously dumbed down the outdoor skills of folks who then simply don't know any better.This is not unlike the guy a couple of years or so ago that got himself lost and trapped (by lack of experience and preparation) in a canyon leading to the river because he could see, hear and smell the river but had no common sense to understand it was highly unlikely he could successfully stroll down to it. Eventually, he slid down a dryfall and could neither go down or up. He was extremely lucky to be found in time. His skill level was described as an experienced "trekker" whatever that was supposed to mean (and I commented on that elsewhere on the board at the time).In the current case, there is the comment their map was "too small". Anybody ever hiked in Big Bend back in the day when a 1:130,000 scale map was the only resource? It was entirely possible to do it, in lots of places, including the Outer Mountain Loop/Dodson Trail. That was a very small scale map...over 10,800' to the inch (there was no detail, only broad themes), in contrast to the 2000' to the inch on the 24k maps of today.More likely, they really don't know how to navigate by map and compass. Why? Because in most national parks you don't have to on most of the trails the majority of tourists throng. In most state parks, the areas are too small to really need a map or get lost. It also begs the question of simple orientation. It's a desert, you can see for miles, or you can walk up to places where you can see for miles. Landmarks abound. Folks that don't take the time to SEE where they are and keep a general awareness of how they got there, leaves me completely baffled. Again, a complete lack of experience in an environment they probably never before perceived as a serious threat to their well being, because they never had to until it was too late.They also had little water at the outset, despite the apparent "experience" of visiting Big Bend every year since 2001. Obviously, they learned nothing.Also, even though they apparently were carrying little but fanny packs, both somehow failed to notice she left hers behind at a rest stop. Now, that likely was a result of the onset of dehydration, a predictable result of not being responsible enough to properly plan for the hike. The report that she had discarded her clothing certainly is proof of severe mental befuddlement due to dehydration.They both were extremely lucky (she was extraordinarily fortunate) and it wasn't even anywhere near the brutal summer conditions.I especially enjoyed this comment from a friend: "Frye was a seasoned reporter who had covered major disasters, including the 2010 flooding at an Arkansas campground that killed 20 people. She's a preparer," Yep, all that makes you ready for what almost killed her. All her "coverage" occurred with a vehicle nearby, comfy motels and support (not unlike park situations). She may have been at disasters on the job, but never was IN one until BBRSP.
Every year the couple goes back to celebrate. They know the trails in the basin like they were printed on road maps under their skin.
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