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Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd

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Offline travii99

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Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« on: August 30, 2018, 08:52:44 PM »
I am sorry to start another thread about the roads, but I haven't been able to find the specifics I am looking for.  I have a 2016 F150 Crew Cab pickup that is 4wd and has BFG AT KO2 tires (on 20" rims :-/....) skid plates etc.  I am quite familiar with rocky terrain offroading and will make sure i have all of the necessary tools/equipment for the trip.  I am a long time veteran of BBNP and deep back country stuff, so no worries there.  Most of the folks that seem to take these trails seem to be in jeeps or small off-road vehicles.  I beat the hell out of my last truck and regretted how badly scratched and beat up it got from my blatant disregard for repeated minor damage.  So I am trying to avoid being so mean to this truck if I can.

So I am wondering  about three things regarding the Madrid Falls and Guale Mesa Roads.

1. Are these roads too much for a full sized/stock pickup (being a long wheelbase vehicle with no aftermarket lift)? 

2.  Will the 20" rims would prove to be a problem? I don't like the 20" rims for offroading and haven't done much offroading since I got this truck.  Just curious if anyone has any thoughts.  I am not buying new tires and rims for this trip.  Just don't want to get out there and find they are just too 'highway' for these trails. 

3. Other than some superficial scratching (I know, I am sounding like a total wuss here, but I really beat up my last vehicle and am trying to not do as much damage), is the desert pin striping everyone is talking about anything that typically can't be buffed out?

Thanks y'all, I sure love this forum!


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Offline Txlj

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 09:49:33 PM »
95% percent of desert pinstripping can be buffed, but you never know. On the 20" wheels, thats not much sidewall to absorb the hits but if you dive slow, you should be ok. As with anything offroad, there are no guarantees. Take your time slow down and see the sights.

Also, have you thought about having a clear "wrap" done to the sides? You wouldn't have to wrap the whole truck, just the sides. That would save the paint and once the wrap gets too scratched up, peal it off and you got new paint.

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Offline presidio

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 10:06:24 PM »
2.  Will the 20" rims would prove to be a problem? I don't like the 20" rims for offroading and haven't done much offroading since I got this truck.  Just curious if anyone has any thoughts.  I am not buying new tires and rims for this trip.  Just don't want to get out there and find they are just too 'highway' for these trails. 

Rims have nothing to do with it, unless you've got tires with those silly 2" or 3" street sidewalls to compensate for the larger diameter wheel. Absent that, it's all about the kind of rubber, not the wheel.

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3. Other than some superficial scratching (I know, I am sounding like a total wuss here, but I really beat up my last vehicle and am trying to not do as much damage), is the desert pin striping everyone is talking about anything that typically can't be buffed out?

You either:
a) accept it
b) use a beater vehicle
c) don't go

Vegetation pin striping is the last thing I worry about, even with new vehicles.
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Online Mesquito

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2018, 04:41:00 AM »
Iíve taken my 2015 Wrangler out to BBRSP maybe a half dozen times.  I guess if you peer at it from certain angles in the bright sunshine you can see the effects.  Iíve never tried to buff it out.

Iíve seen the unlikeliest damn vehicles out on Madrid Falls Road. 

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Offline 01ACRViper

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2018, 10:04:37 AM »
I had to put my Grand Cherokee in 4WD going up the steepest section of the road (up to the last mesa, several miles from the Madrid Falls trail) on a late arrival to the Pila de los Muchachos campsite.

But on subsequent trips up we made it fine in 2wd.  I don't remember any sharp turns that would be difficult in a long wheel base truck.

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Offline travii99

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2018, 01:31:17 PM »
I found the video below.  The road seems quite mild now that I can see it some.  I guess I have seen too many of the unmaintained road videos haha.


Thank you for the replies.  I look forward to seeing the park, sounds and looks like an awesome place.

So can anyone compare this road to the Guale Mesa road in terms of my previous question?

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Offline BlindWilly

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2018, 01:40:58 PM »
95% percent of desert pinstripping can be buffed, but you never know. On the 20" wheels, thats not much sidewall to absorb the hits but if you dive slow, you should be ok. As with anything offroad, there are no guarantees. Take your time slow down and see the sights.

Also, have you thought about having a clear "wrap" done to the sides? You wouldn't have to wrap the whole truck, just the sides. That would save the paint and once the wrap gets too scratched up, peal it off and you got new paint.
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This right here.  Most of the pin striping can be buffed.
You want to make sure you have plenty of sidewall on your tire. Also, a good A/T tire is preferred. Regular street tires will be your biggest issue.
If you do only 1 thing to prepare for those roads, upgrade to a C rated (or higher) Tire. 

Drive slow, air down (if you have a compressor to air back up) and you're truck will be just fine.
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Online Mesquito

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Re: Madrid Falls Road - Stock F150 4wd
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2018, 04:45:17 PM »
I found the video below.  The road seems quite mild now that I can see it some.  I guess I have seen too many of the unmaintained road videos haha.


Thank you for the replies.  I look forward to seeing the park, sounds and looks like an awesome place.

So can anyone compare this road to the Guale Mesa road in terms of my previous question?

Guale Road is about like Madrid, but no steep hill.  There are a couple of washes to cross that may have got a bit gnarlier due to the recent rains.  Also, thereís a section that follows a creek bed where the brush grows pretty close.  If you are over-nice about your paint Iíd bring some pruning shears. We would not resent it one bit were you to cut that section back a bit.  :icon_smile:

 


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