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Camping/overland trailers.

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Offline BlindWilly

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Camping/overland trailers.
« on: September 16, 2018, 01:33:42 PM »
I've got 2 couples in my group this winter that have and want to use their camping trailers.  Are those considered a 2nd vehicle or still part of the original vehicle as far as limit at campsites?
They have their tents mounted on top for sleeping.
The Green FJ and Trailer are one of the couples.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 03:15:04 PM »
I've got 2 couples in my group this winter that have and want to use their camping trailers.  Are those considered a 2nd vehicle or still part of the original vehicle as far as limit at campsites?
They have their tents mounted on top for sleeping.
The Green FJ and Trailer are one of the couples.

Very good question. The camping regulations and compendium do not make clear how those are counted.

It's so unclear it seems open to individual interpretation by funny hatters.

Just another example of not writing understandable rules and defining words.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 06:26:12 PM »
I would think the limit on vehicles has more to do with the amount of parking space available at the campsites. 

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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 10:12:33 PM »
I would think the limit on vehicles has more to do with the amount of parking space available at the campsites.

Indeed, but the question of whether a towed vehicle is included as part of the towing unit or is a second unit remains unclear and unanswered.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 07:50:40 AM »
I've got 2 couples in my group this winter that have and want to use their camping trailers.  Are those considered a 2nd vehicle or still part of the original vehicle as far as limit at campsites?
They have their tents mounted on top for sleeping.
The Green FJ and Trailer are one of the couples.

Very good question. The camping regulations and compendium do not make clear how those are counted.

It's so unclear it seems open to individual interpretation by funny hatters.

Just another example of not writing understandable rules and defining words.
I guess I haven't spent enough time in the state parks.  :icon_redface: Do they wear funny hats as well? :ranger:

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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2018, 07:54:32 AM »
I thought I was the only funny hatter in the state park.  It keeps the sun off my ears though.
Yeah, this question was posed in the BBRSP section, but it could be informative for the folks in BBNP.
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Offline Ranger Tim

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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 09:47:09 AM »
Trailers do not count as extra vehicles.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 11:29:30 AM »
I've got 2 couples in my group this winter that have and want to use their camping trailers.  Are those considered a 2nd vehicle or still part of the original vehicle as far as limit at campsites?
They have their tents mounted on top for sleeping.
The Green FJ and Trailer are one of the couples.

Very good question. The camping regulations and compendium do not make clear how those are counted.

It's so unclear it seems open to individual interpretation by funny hatters.

Just another example of not writing understandable rules and defining words.
I guess I haven't spent enough time in the state parks.  :icon_redface: Do they wear funny hats as well? :ranger:

I don't know.

My apologies, I overlooked the source topic folder.

Will endeavor to do better in the future.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 12:24:00 PM »
Trailers do not count as extra vehicles.
That's great to know, it makes it easier for the group to plan.
By the way, I called Sauceda yesterday afternoon. The woman I spoke with mentioned it would be if it was licensed separately from the main vehicle.
Since you're in charge, I'm going with your version.  :)

(Don't want to cause issues, just thought you should know.)
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 12:39:56 PM »
I double checked with the superintendent here at the Barton Warnock and it looks like I was WRONG. A trailer is technically a separate vehicle in the context of how many vehicles will fit into a campsite. My apologies, but we don't get many trailers at this park, especially in the backcountry.
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Re: Camping/overland trailers.
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 01:07:00 PM »
Ok, that's good to know. I'd rather get it clarified ahead of time.
That being said, I think we're ok with my group this trip.

Wait, I thought you were the guy in charge... you have a super?
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