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DFW to BBRSP

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Offline Birdman

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DFW to BBRSP
« on: December 21, 2009, 04:54:37 PM »
I am planing a three night trip to BBRSP in January. This will be my first time there. Google maps suggest taking I20 to Pecos and then heading south from there on TX17 to Marfa and then US67 to Presidio. From there into the park from the west. Is this a good route to the interior of the park from DFW?
We are planing on camping near the truck/fire wood and doing day hikes. Does anyone have any suggestions on two wheel drive (F150) accessible camp sites. I was thinking about Papalotito Colorado. Has anyone stayed there before?
Does anyone have any suggestions for day hikes? I know I am asking a lot of questions, but you guys always have the answers. Thanks in advance for your help. I will post a trip report and picture link when we get back.

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Offline Hoodoo

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 07:08:39 PM »
Google maps suggest taking I20 to Pecos and then heading south from there on TX17 to Marfa and then US67 to Presidio. From there into the park from the west. Is this a good route to the interior of the park from DFW?

Birdman,
I think you can save some time by taking Ranch Road (RR)1927 South at Pyote, TX to RR 1776. Turn right on RR1776 to RR 1450. Take RR1450 for about a half mile where it reconnects to RR1776 and proceed south to the metropolis of Coyonosa, Tx. Continuing south on RR1776 will cross I-10 just west of Fort Stockton and becomes Highway 67.

You might also look into Casa Piedra road (RR169) South of Marfa about 7 or 8 miles. I have not driven it yet, but I believe you can get to Sauceda Ranch that way.

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 07:29:15 PM »
Los Ojitios is a good two wheel drive spot to camp. It's a little elevated and near a spring so you can hike down at sunset and see a lot of wildlife. Only a mile or so from Sauceda should you want to slip over there and take a hot shower. Lots of good day hikes in the Ranch. Lots of high lonesome, lots of dark, lots of stars and lots of communion with yourself.

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Offline jim2

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 08:22:08 PM »
Los Ojitios is a good two wheel drive spot to camp. It's a little elevated and near a spring so you can hike down at sunset and see a lot of wildlife. Only a mile or so from Sauceda should you want to slip over there and take a hot shower. Lots of good day hikes in the Ranch. Lots of high lonesome, lots of dark, lots of stars and lots of communion with yourself.
sounds like you've spent time out there. any favorite hikes ? there isn't a lot posted about bbrsp. i've never been, but all the people i know who have love it.

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Offline guc126

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 09:28:43 PM »
Birdman, here's a post to a recent bbrsp visit. Might answer some questions.
http://www.bigbendchat.com/portal/forum/your-trip-reports/big-bend-rookies-trip-report-2nd-excursion-t8773.0.html
First off, Los Ojitos is excellent for birdwatching if that's what your handle suggests. So is the short hike into Ojito Adentro. Pila Montoya 3 is majestic. All the trails that I've hiked or seen at the ranch are old jeep trails. Moderately strenuous at worst with limitless opportunities to branch out off-trail but things can get pretty rugged if you do. If you have 6-ply all terrain tires with at least 1 same spare you might try the campsites in the solitario section. Spectacular day hiking up there according to Edmundo and Rick at the Sauceda headquarters. You best have this type of tire for any extensive driving on the 2wd high clearance roads and you better have 2 good spares for any road labeled 4wd or 4wd unmaintained. If your entering the park from fm 170 avoid the bofecillos road and take the casa piedra road. It seems the bofecillos road is very sandy at a couple of creek crossings and a high percentage of 2wd vehicles are getting stuck according to the personnel at the Barton Warnock center in Lajitas   

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Offline Terlingua50337

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 08:04:18 AM »
There's no way I'd go that far and not hike over to Cinco Tinajas. Last time there I got up early and was on the rim of Levya Canyon looking north and watched the sun paint the canyon as it rose. I then walked the rim over and looked down at the tinajas then hiked down and around to the head of the tanks. Being a solo hiker I didn't go any further than the first tinaja. Would have loved to have gone further but....... I guess I'm smarter than I used to be. The trail is pretty well marked with cairns and is like most of the hikes in the ranch, pretty easy, but don't forget your water, even in winter. Ojito Adentro is another nice hike. Coming in there is a spot called Curevas Amarillas. There are some rock shelters there with pictographs on the ceilings. It is about 1/2 down to Sauceda once you pass thru the park entrance.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 10:21:18 AM by RichardM »

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 10:03:05 AM »
I will be making my third trip to the Ranch, but the first to the interior, about a month after you (my other two visits were spent hiking the Rancherias Loop).  Looking forward to your report.

Regarding the route to the park:  There is a visitors center in Presidio where you can get permits, but it also adds quite a few miles.  If you are willing and able to drive to the ranger station deep in the park, you can bypass Presidio by taking US 67 from Marfa and then, about 8 miles south of Marfa, RR 169 to the left.  This road ultimately connects with RR 170 along the Rio Grande, but well before then has a turnoff onto the main east-west road in the park.  Follow this road at least twenty miles to get to the ranger station where permits can be obtained.

I think it depends upon where you are going to camp.  If you set up within a few miles inside the park entrance, then going to Presidio makes more sense.  If you're going to camp deep within the park, then I would bypass Presidio.

Finally,as I'm sure you know, this park is extremely primitive.  Nowhere near as developed as the National Park.  Except for the main east-west road, I think all the roads are considered four-wheel drive and some of them are so rough that they should be avoided by all except those who have serious off-road vehicles and tires.

Good luck!  Can't wait for your report.
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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 10:19:56 AM »
I do not know how much experience you have in off road, but do have a spare tire mounted and ready, if you can afford it two. Air compressor, plugs for tires and a good jack (not the one that comes with truck), a spinner tire iron, hopefully a high lift jack which is worth it weight, a shovel, pick, gloves water winter or summer in desert and a trip plan. This board will give you a wealth of knowledge, use it but be aware you are ultimately responsible for your safety. Take photos and please provide a trip report for us folks that have been away for awhile. Have fun, be safe.
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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 11:06:41 AM »
Here's another great hike, Closed Canyon. Cut and paste this in your browser (I don't know how to make it a hyperlink in this forum). It should take you to a google map:
 



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« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 11:10:44 AM by RichardM »

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 12:37:39 PM »
Oh, forgot to mention-if some custom pinstriping on your truck will bother you don't get off the main road. You won't regret it though. (character marks)

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 08:04:24 PM »
terlingua 50337 , that is one sweet spot ! thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: DFW to BBRSP
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 01:36:40 PM »
Plan on doing a ground hold and stopping short in Fort Stockton.  :icon_eek:  Also, if you are taking any of the back roads to Fort Stockton, you may want to stop shorert.  The deer are heavy this time of the year on the roads - even the Interstates - along with a lot of other critters.  I literally crawled at 30mph from Llano to Junction late one night this time of the year.  I had planned on running 190 all the way to Iraan, but the deer 5' off the road and sometimes in the middle of the road really spooked me - especially since cell service was non-existent for the most part.   Had to honk my horn to get them to move.  Even on the Interstate, there were deer carcasses everywhere and many groups standing beside the freeway or in the median.   

As far as the Casa Piedra route, it's quickest to go from Fort Stockton to 67 and then down Alpine, Marfa, Shafter, and Presidio.

Papalotito Colorado is too near the main road - you will see headlights and vehicles heading to the ranch complex for showers, meals, etc. - not my idea of "isolation".

 


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