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Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« on: July 01, 2016, 10:36:09 AM »
I looked at the BBRSP website and either I missed it, or I read this somewhere else, but...
Is there a limit to group size or number of vehicles at some of the camp sites?
I'm planning on coming out between Xmas and NYE this year. I have a bunch of friends that have shown interest in joining me.  I think the number of vehicles is at 7.
The plan (so far) is to gas up and head to Tres Papalotes and camp. The next few days would be driving West and camping in different spots, exploring the area. I want to finish up at Casa Ramon for the last night.
Does that sound doable?
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 03:13:27 PM »
I looked at the BBRSP website and either I missed it, or I read this somewhere else, but...
Is there a limit to group size or number of vehicles at some of the camp sites?
I'm planning on coming out between Xmas and NYE this year. I have a bunch of friends that have shown interest in joining me.  I think the number of vehicles is at 7.
The plan (so far) is to gas up and head to Tres Papalotes and camp. The next few days would be driving east and camping in different spots, exploring the area. I want to finish up at Casa Ramon for the last night.
Does that sound doable?

Individual campsites have an eight-person and three-vehicle limit.

Group campsites have a 12-person and five-vehicle limit.

Equestrian staging campsites have a 24-person and 12-vehicle limit.

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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 08:08:10 AM »
I looked at the BBRSP website and either I missed it, or I read this somewhere else, but...
Is there a limit to group size or number of vehicles at some of the camp sites?
I'm planning on coming out between Xmas and NYE this year. I have a bunch of friends that have shown interest in joining me.  I think the number of vehicles is at 7.
The plan (so far) is to gas up and head to Tres Papalotes and camp. The next few days would be driving WEST and camping in different spots, exploring the area. I want to finish up at Casa Ramon for the last night.
Does that sound doable?

Individual campsites have an eight-person and three-vehicle limit.

Group campsites have a 12-person and five-vehicle limit.

Equestrian staging campsites have a 24-person and 12-vehicle limit.

Thanks!  Now I just need to verify who's coming with me. Sounds like I'll have to probably go with the group campsites :)
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 11:34:05 AM »
Does anyone know if the campsites in the Cienega mountain area (Casa Ramon) are group or individual sites?
The "Road to Nowhere" pdf didn't specify.  Not much on the main website either.
Thanks again :)
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 01:20:02 PM »
The Cienega mountain area sites such as Casa Ramon are individual sites. Also, if you have never been there, I would strongly suggest making a recon trip to check those sites out before trailing a bunch a vehicles up there. Those sites are easily the most remote in the park and the roads that access them are rough and unmaintained. For that matter, they change with every storm, so don't plan on trying to reach them in an afternoon as it very well could all day just to get there.
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 09:50:26 AM »
The Cienega mountain area sites such as Casa Ramon are individual sites. Also, if you have never been there, I would strongly suggest making a recon trip to check those sites out before trailing a bunch a vehicles up there. Those sites are easily the most remote in the park and the roads that access them are rough and unmaintained. For that matter, they change with every storm, so don't plan on trying to reach them in an afternoon as it very well could all day just to get there.
Thanks Ranger Tim,
I was supposed to be out last March on a recon trip, but got stuck at work with a last minute emergency. I did have some friends drive out there and recon it. They said it was rough, but doable.
I might have 1 of those folks with me, and some other experienced off roaders.
Looks like we will maybe just venture out that way to explore and camp somewhere else as a group.
I've got about 4 more months to plan this out  :icon_eek:
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2016, 11:24:37 AM »
BlindWilly, keep me in the loop during the planning phase and I will help as much as I can. I will be doing some work out there this fall/winter so I can possibly keep y'all abreast of any changes. Good luck and keep planning!
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 02:49:00 PM »
BlindWilly, keep me in the loop during the planning phase and I will help as much as I can. I will be doing some work out there this fall/winter so I can possibly keep y'all abreast of any changes. Good luck and keep planning!
Thanks, I sure will !
I actually spoke to a very nice person at the station the other day. Autumn was her name, I believe.
She suggested sites along the way, starting at Tres Papalotes, then Mexicano 2 the next night.
Guale 2 will follow that. 
I'm still deciding on the rest of the nights.
I'm still going to go scout out Casa Ramon if you want to hitch hike along.   :icon_lol:
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 12:55:24 PM »
BlindWilly, keep me in the loop during the planning phase and I will help as much as I can. I will be doing some work out there this fall/winter so I can possibly keep y'all abreast of any changes. Good luck and keep planning!

Hey Ranger Tim,
So I was daydreaming at work this afternoon and looking at Google Earth. I knew there were some mines south past Tres Papalotes and started following the trails past the one to Nowhere.
Well next thing I know, I'm following a trail around the south end of the Solitario and it looped back up to McGuirks Tanks. 
Looks like parts of them haven't been traveled in a while, but the trails were there...
Are these accessible to the public?  It would be an adventure to continue on around that end of the Solitario on our 2nd day to wind our way back toward the next campsite.
As of now I'll be with 3 very capable FJ Cruisers and 1 Humvee. 
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 01:54:54 PM »
As of now I'll be with 3 very capable FJ Cruisers and 1 Humvee.
I'd always heard that Humvees were too wide for most of the trails in BBRSP. Something to consider.

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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2016, 09:56:38 AM »
As of now I'll be with 3 very capable FJ Cruisers and 1 Humvee.
I'd always heard that Humvees were too wide for most of the trails in BBRSP. Something to consider.
The fellow driving the Humvee has been to BBRSP a lot. According to him, he's been on most of the trails, but not all. 
He's taken it up to Nowhere before. In fact, just this summer, I think.

In fact, I first met him in passing. I was on my way into the park and he was driving out on the main road.  We did the wave thing and mentioned it on facebook's "Friends of Big Bend" page.
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2016, 01:04:42 PM »
So I just got a reply from a fella on Facebook.
Looks like the "inner and outer" loop are not for vehicles.  Oh well, a guy can dream, lol
On to more exploring from above using Google Earth :D
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2016, 10:17:52 AM »
Sorry BW, you are absolutely right that the Inner and Outer loops are pedestrian trails. You should still find plenty of adventure to be had! Currently the road into Fresno Canyon is not passable as a result of this summer's monsoon rains, but I think that the rest of the roads should be okay.
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2016, 12:48:38 PM »
Thanks for the update. Looks like more rain is heading your way from the Tropical Storm crossing Mexico.
We'll get the latest updates from you when we check in.
I was looking forward to fresno canyon, but I can always save it for next time.
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Re: Vehicle limits in BBRSP camp sites?
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2016, 02:47:34 PM »
Today has been a slow day at the office.
I pulled up the discovery map, a huge PDF file from the state park website and discovered a trail I've never noticed before.
On the south end, it starts near the Botella residence. It heads north then splits into 2 trails, the easternmost one looking to be longer.

Has anyone been on it recently and if so, how did you like it?

It's looking like a good day's worth of exploring that on the way to Casa Ramon.
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