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Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?

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Offline Repoman73

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Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« on: October 08, 2013, 08:49:38 AM »
I'm planning a first time trip to BBRSP and I was wondering if anyone could help me out.  The current plan is to hike at the Javelina campsite and then hike the Rancheritas Loop.  There are two vehicles in my party and while one if them is a lifted Jeep, the other is just a 2WD F-150.  It does have AT tires though.

From looking at the map, it looks like the road to Javelina isn't too bad.  Does anyone have any experience driving it and do you think the F-150 will be okay?

Another question, has anyone ever had any problems with break-ins if you park next to the river?  I know that is a problem on BBNP.

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Offline Reece

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 09:19:03 AM »
I parked at the West Rancherias trail head on 170 and hiked up Rancherias canyon once. I didn't feel safe leaving my Jeep there for 2 nights.

On another trip, I drove to Javelina trail head and hiked to Rancherias Springs. I did not worry at all about my vehicle when it was parked at Javelina - only that it might not start up for the drive out. It's a very remote area.

The high-clearance vehicle roads in Big Bend Ranch are easily managed with a pickup truck. The Jeep might come in handy if you decide to go on any 4X4 roads. I tried some 4X4 roads in my Nissan Frontier but had to turn back. I was solo with no rescue/towing  options. With 2 vehicles, one being the Jeep, you might both be able to navigate even the 4X4 roads together. Be prepared for some desert pin striping.


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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 10:31:50 AM »
In think vehicle break ins along the river in BBNP are much less common since the boarder patrol is in such force and probably the same all along the river road too.  I haven't read of any in a long time. 

Some years ago, in 2000, we hiked the Rancherias loop, leaving a car at each end and had no problems.
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Offline trtlrock

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 12:39:13 PM »
Did Rancherias Loop fairly recently, and parked for 3 nights at the western trailhead. No problems. Asked at Barton Warnock in advance and was told something like 1 break-in on FM170 near the Rancherias trailheads in the last 20 years or so. Should be fine.
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Offline Repoman73

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 03:27:15 PM »
1 in 20 years is pretty good odds!  Thanks for the info.

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 06:05:06 AM »
This is a shot of the typical high-clearace road in the park.


Here's a shot of a rough spot in a 4X4 road. This was on the hike from the Javelina trail head to Rancherias springs. See the brush hanging over the sides of the road? That's where you get your pinstriping.
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Offline Vince T

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 09:13:46 AM »
Interesting thread for me since I am heading out the the State Park in 2 weeks.
I have a Jeep, but the other vehicle is 2011 Explorer.  It's 4WD, but I would not call it high clearance. 
I called the park yesterday and there were 15 campsites occupied - which for that park is crowded.

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Offline Reece

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 09:41:03 AM »
The Explorer should be fine on all but the 4X4 roads. It is high-clearance compared to a sedan.

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Offline Repoman73

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 09:27:54 PM »
Interesting thread for me since I am heading out the the State Park in 2 weeks.
I have a Jeep, but the other vehicle is 2011 Explorer.  It's 4WD, but I would not call it high clearance. 
I called the park yesterday and there were 15 campsites occupied - which for that park is crowded.

I think it's probably turning into an alternative destination since BBNP is closed.  That's how I started looking into it.  We have a trip planning in mid-Nov and I wanted to have a plan B in case the park is still closed.  However, after taking a closer look, I am really looking forward to the state park since I have never been there before.

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 12:32:47 PM »
Here's a shot of a rough spot in a 4X4 road. This was on the hike from the Javelina trail head to Rancherias springs. See the brush hanging over the sides of the road? That's where you get your pinstriping.


 
I'm guessing the wheelbase of my stock 4x4 pickup is a little too long to clear that hump?  Any thoughts.
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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 12:42:32 PM »
Stay to the left and take it slow? A spotter might help. Pruning shears?

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Offline Don H

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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 03:01:11 PM »
I agree "stay to the left" and angle to the right as you're going over the hump to cross it at a diagonal so to speak.  Do you have AT tires preferably 7-10 ply?  The sharp pointy rocks are what get you plus sidewall scrapes.
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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 03:40:07 PM »
Do you have AT tires preferably 7-10 ply?

Yes.
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Re: Road Conditions Going to Javelina Site? Cime by River?
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 04:07:49 PM »
Got skid plates? You can storm right through there - maybe even level it out a bit for the next guy.

 


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