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Road from soltario to terlingua

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Road from soltario to terlingua
« on: December 21, 2016, 12:40:31 PM »
I'm probably doing a long trip to the sp and np. I want to start in the sp finishing NE near the soltario. I'd like to drive from there into terlingua.  What's the best way and what's the most scenic way. I was back in those roads years ago and loved the terrain.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2016, 08:24:22 PM »
That's probably a question for Ranger Tim, but my understanding is that there are only two "driveable" roads out of BBRSP - the main entrance road from the west and another heading north.

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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 08:19:20 AM »
That's my understanding also.
Someone was kind enough to send me directions to their property up on the east side of Solitario (Above Terlingua), but looking at google earth, maps and any map I could find, there doesn't appear to be any road that connects to that area.
Ranger Tim is the one who would know for sure.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 10:43:44 AM »
I looked closer at google and I don't see any connecting roads except kind of north. Google says to go up casa piedra, turn off at 2941'19.8"N 10353'07.1"W then head east to 118.
So that might be the only way that I can see.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2016, 04:37:40 PM »
I looked closer at google and I don't see any connecting roads except kind of north. Google says to go up casa piedra, turn off at 2941'19.8"N 10353'07.1"W then head east to 118.
So that might be the only way that I can see.

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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 07:07:28 AM »
Talking w Ranger Tim a few days ago, there's a gate on the north road, so other than driving the main road through the park, you need to walk in.
It's possible to drive Sawmill Road 20 odd miles (you'll probably need 4wd and it's easy to get lost) to the mouth of Left-Hand Shutup and hike into the Solitario that way, about 3 miles, easy walking.  Still need a permit to go in the park.

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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 12:32:25 PM »
I was planning on staying in the park for 4 or 5 days. I would be working my way eastward . I was just hoping to go out the back way instead of going back around the main entrance and hope for some cool scenery.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 12:23:58 PM »
Tomorrow I'm heading that way. We are hitting the park and heading straight east to Tres Papalotes.  From there we are working our way back west toward the entrance of the park on as many back trails (4x4) that we can find.
I've got reservations for all the campsites already, just in case it got busy between the holidays.  Only one I couldn't get was Guale 2.
Casa Piedra road enters the park on the west side and northwest side.  Boffecillos road access' the park on the southwest side and intersects Casa Piedra road.
On the website for the park is a great map on the maps tab.  The map is the "Discovery topo Map" and is very detailed.  You'll see every road and 4x4 and hiking trail.
http://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/big-bend-ranch/map
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 09:58:33 AM »
I'd like to hear what you itinerary ends up being. Sound like my kind of trip...I've been there about five times now but haven't gone too far off the 'main' roads. I didnt' find rancherias to big of an issue. It doesn't surprise me that Guale 2 was taken. That's a badass spot! Las burras 3 is pretty cool too. I'd like to hike tapado canyon. I have walked some of it when I dropped down into it to see oso springs. Anyone done it?
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 12:21:38 PM »
Sorry to have neglected this post for so long! So, there is only one "open" and legal road into the Solitario and that is the Main Park Road through Sauceda to Jackson Pens and down in to the Solitario itself. There is a road that bounds the park to the North, but it is closed to public access at this time. As far as hiking routes go, I have heard of people taking the Left Hand Shutup from Terlingua Ranch, but be advised that most of that is private property so I must encourage you to avoid that route.

As far as Tapado to Las Burras goes, I only know of a handful of people who have ever successfully accessed Ojo Oso owing to a series of cascades that will stymie in-canyon travel. There is an old ranch road that ascends Lower Guale Mesa from Tapado Canyon, but I have not traveled all of it as of yet.

If you are looking at stitching together a overland travel route I'll be happy to advise.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 10:56:29 PM »
Hey Tim!  Good stuff to know. I know how to get to oso Springs. If I head down south in the Canyon is there a pour off or something restricting further travel?
I'd also like to do rancherias upper. I did part of it but my son ran out of gas....id also like to do lower and left shutups. I've done the right three times. Each time a little further as was dictated by my son's age. Never have topped out on it.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2016, 08:49:46 AM »
I am not sure about further travel in Oso Canyon, though I do know that there are a number of sheer cascades to the north of the spring that stymie in drainage travel.
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2016, 06:07:40 PM »
I like canyons. Especially narrow ones. I don't mind a long day hike or an overnighter. What would be the top three areas for me to go? Thanks!
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Re: Road from soltario to terlingua
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2016, 10:35:11 AM »
Hi there,
I just got back from 4 days/3 nights at BBRSP. What a trip!
I'm doing a write up soon, but I didn't find the northern entrance.  We went up the 4x4 trail Paseo Al Solitario... a level 3 out of 5 trail, with some 4 spots.
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