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What to do with your car when zone camping?

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Offline raptor()

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What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 09:59:41 PM »
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I came close about 5 years ago to being a "victim" while in the Grapevine Hills area. Had pulled off and parked the car for about 1/2 hour to check out the area for any great photographs. When I headed back there I noticed in the distance that there were two young hispanic males heading over to my car to check it out. They had parked their older model white pickup about 100 yards away. All of sudden they spotted me coming over a hill and quickly returned to their truck without saying or doing anything. They would not have found much of any interest in the vehicle, but was glad I arrived on the scene when I did.


I'm surprised to hear this happened so far north.  The river areas, I've heard can be bad but isn't Grapevine Hills on the other side of the Chisos?  

If these guys were in a truck, we can assume they paid to get into the park?  How else could they have gotten there?  Or are there places within the park where you can cross the border in a vehicle?

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2007, 11:01:03 PM »
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we can assume they paid to get into the park?


Of course, a couple of GPS's and cameras could easily pay for the park admission.   :P

I've often wondered if I'm going to park the vehicle for a couple of days if it would just be better to leave it unlocked with a note on it indicating - vehicle unlocked, look all you want, nothing of value - to keep them from breaking a window.   :shock:   Used to drive Jeeps all the time, used to keep the doors unlocked so that a clouter wouldn't cut the vinyl top to get in.  Got back to my Jeep one day and it had a huge slit in the vinyl top to get in an unlocked Jeep.  The clouters hadn't bothered to check if it was unlocked before they cut.  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  (this didn't happen in BIBE - in Richardson off of all places)   :twisted:

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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2007, 07:07:24 AM »
...just like the NY City (urban legend?)...

left note on dash -- "no stereo, nothing of value"

come back to broken window & note left on seat..."just checking" :)
John & Tess

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Re: Often Wondered.
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2007, 09:31:14 AM »
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Of course, a couple of GPS's and cameras could easily pay for the park admission.   :P


I suppose so.  Still it's an amusing thought to pay for park admission then go in and steal.  Perhaps they figure if it's slim pickings that day they can always take in a hike or something.  :)

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What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2007, 09:32:39 AM »
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If these guys were in a truck, we can assume they paid to get into the park?  How else could they have gotten there?  Or are there places within the park where you can cross the border in a vehicle?

There are several vehicle crossings described in my cousin's book Contrabando: Confessions of a Drug-Smuggling Texas Cowboy.  Also, the entrance stations aren't manned 24/7/365 so it's not too difficult to get in without a permit.

Grapevine Hills is not an area in which I would've expected this kind of activity.

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What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2007, 02:08:37 PM »
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It was surreal what was stolen & what was deemed unworthy -- tent no, tent fly yes -- 2 cases of CDs no, medium weight jacket w/JBL logo yes -- my wife's boots no, mine yes -- and so on...


It makes perfect sense as to what was taken....useful things in an economically depressed area. Clothing, boots (it was a guy...he needed yours), the fly could be used as a tarp or shelter.

No need for tents or CDs....those are recreational things of an affluent lifestyle.
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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2007, 05:31:51 PM »
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what do you do with your car?Thanks,
Chris


Get a rental and be sure to take out all the insurance.

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 07:33:00 AM »
Opinions on leaving a vehicle at HWR parking area or ME parking area while zone camping for a night or 2?  Safe or not?

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 08:40:37 AM »
Opinions on leaving a vehicle at HWR parking area or ME parking area while zone camping for a night or 2?  Safe or not?

Very safe.
John & Tess

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 08:53:22 AM »
The only place safer would be the Basin or one of the other campgrounds.  Would not hesitate to leave it for a week.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Offline Homer Wilson

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2014, 12:29:29 PM »
Opinions on leaving a vehicle at HWR parking area or ME parking area while zone camping for a night or 2?  Safe or not?
I've done it - no issues. Just don't leave something too tempting to not steal in plain sight.

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 11:08:46 AM »
I would agree with above posts, unless you're out camping for 3+ days, and/or within easy hiking distance of Study Butte. Other options are parking at the fire management office parking lot behind PJ (set this up w/rangers when getting permit), or by making friends in Study Butte (easy) & then inquiring about safe places to park there...

Last three permits I got my request to park in back or elsewhere past the "Employees only beyond this point" sign were categorically denied.

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2014, 07:23:03 PM »
It seems like a shuttle service could make a few bucks in the park.
Everything is in walking distance if you have enough time.

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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 08:03:30 PM »
It seems like a shuttle service could make a few bucks in the park.

More than a few bucks, while I don't begrudge a small business from charging what they need (I run a small business) and having used the available shuttle services (the rafting companies) it is not inexpensive.  At least $100 and more depending on the beginning and ending points.  My last trip would have cost nearly $200 for a shuttle from RGV to Dog Canyon trailhead.
temperatures exceed 100 degrees F
minimum 1 gallon water per person/day
no shade, no water
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Re: What to do with your car when zone camping?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2014, 09:58:24 AM »
 :icon_eek:$200? My first reaction was that's crazy. Then I thought 90 minutes from Terlingua to RGV, and hour to Dog Canyon trailhead, then another hour or more back to Terlingua. That's three and a half to four hours. Wages, mileage, and profit added up and then $200 starts to look less like highway robbery.

I picked up a couple guys backpacking from Panther Junction and took them up to Dog Canyon. It seemed cool at first but then I grew more and more uncomfortable with them plus I had my son in the car with me. Sad, but I probably wouldn't do that again.

Acadia in Maine has natural gas buses that wind their way in and out of the park, partially paid for by LL Bean. During peak times I wonder if a bus service couldn't pay for itself. But the logistics of that are pretty crazy. Think about driving a loop that would travel

Basin > PJ > RGV > PJ > Persimmon Gap > PJ > Basin > Castolon > Maverick or even Terlingua? > Basin

You could probably only do that twice a day.
Everything is in walking distance if you have enough time.

 


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